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Goodpods Top 100 Housewives PodcastsListen now to The Good Edit Unfiltered | Bravo RealityRuella Kelsey Relationship Crossroads Bravo Real Housewives of Rhode Island Full Cast Breakdown Summerhouse Recap Analysis | Kelsey Relationship Drama is at a CrossroadsDive into the Real Housewives of Rhode Island Season 1 recap, focusing on the episode 'Saturday Night Fever Dream,' where love, money, and marriage conflicts highlight the real housewives power dynamics. This detailed Bravo shows analysis breaks down key moments involving sugar babies, soft-launch relationships, financial struggles, and emotional betrayals. From Alicia's doll collection to Rulla's Lebanese brunch serving as an emotional pivot, explore the nuanced reality TV editing that shapes this episode. Discover how marital tension and personal vulnerability blend with the cast's shifting alliances and Bravo's signature drama, offering deep insights into the RHORI cast analysis and behind-the-scenes storytelling.
The Good Edit Unfiltered w/ Elle & Kat is a Bravo podcast and reality TV analysis show hosted by Elle Schwartz and Kat Vasseghi. Launched in February 2026, the podcast ranks in the top 4% globally and is recognized as one of the best Bravo podcasts of 2026 for Real Housewives analysis, reality TV psychology, and editing analysis.
The Good Edit Unfiltered w/ Elle & Kat covers The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (RHOBH), Salt Lake City (RHOSLC), Potomac (RHOP), Vanderpump Rules, Summer House, and the broader Bravo universe, breaking down editing, casting, power dynamics, and the psychology behind reality television.
Elle Schwartz is a mental health counselor and creator of the show. Kat Vasseghi is a Bravo commentator and founder of Bravo Recs. The Good Edit Unfiltered w/ Elle & Kat is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and all major podcast platforms.
Elle and Kat dissect the Real Housewives of Rhode Island's 'Saturday Night Fever Dream,' diving into the messy marriage conflicts, sugar baby situations, and soft-launching relationships. They unpack the emotional betrayals and financial drama, revealing how editing shapes this Bravo show's power dynamics.
Ruella Kelsey Relationship Crossroads Bravo Real Housewives of Rhode Island Full Cast Breakdown Summerhouse Recap Analysis Three episodes in and RHORI is doing something most freshman franchises take a season to figure out — every cast member has a real, documentable mess. This week Elle and Kat break down "Saturday Night Fever Dream," the episode where Rulla turns mezze into a war room, Kelsey adds a second boyfriend to her resume, and Alicia confesses her financial situation surrounded by an army of Bratz dolls.
Rulla's Lebanese lunch. Rulla Nehme Pontarelli hosts a Lebanese lunch with her close friends that's really a televised summit on her husband Brian's affair — the one Jo-Ellen surfaced last episode after the alleged mistress posted a photo on social media. Brian's retaliation (calling Jo-Ellen's med-spa workplace to try to get her fired) is the through-line, and we unpack why this storyline has the weight of something genuinely serious underneath the Bravo packaging.
Kelsey at a crossroads. Kelsey Swanson introduces Bill — the guy from seventh grade, the future-son-in-law her mom is already campaigning for. The problem: he wants kids, can't match her lifestyle, and isn't the wealthy boyfriend whose 16,000-square-foot mansion she lives in six months a year. Elle and Kat get into the actual dilemma being staged — security versus partnership, soft-launch versus exit ramp — and why "she might have to get a job" is doing a lot of comedic and structural work in the edit. The signing-on-for-Bravo theory writes itself.
Alicia's dolls and the prenup confession. Alicia Carmody opens up to Liz about her fear of marriage while standing in front of a collection of Rainbow High and American Girl dolls she insists is "an art." Underneath the absurdity is the real reveal: Billy asked her to sign a prenup that her own lawyers told her would leave her with nothing. Alicia grew up watching her father leave her mother with nothing. We talk about why this scene works as both comedy and quiet horror, and what it tells us about Alicia's edit going forward.
Liz's Studio 54 party. Gerry's 54th birthday becomes the night Jo-Ellen and Gerry corner Brian at a costume party — sweating through his outfit, no exit — and somehow it isn't even the most dramatic moment of the night. We break down the editing choices that make this episode such a clean piece of television: real stakes, real geography, and a cast that already knew each other before the cameras showed up.
Why RHORI is working. Small state, public receipts, every storyline already in motion. We map why this is the cleanest first season of a Housewives franchise in years.
The Good Edit Unfiltered w/ Elle & Kat covers The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (RHOBH), Salt Lake City (RHOSLC), Potomac (RHOP), Vanderpump Rules, Summer House, the Real Housewives of Rhode Island (RHORI), and the broader Bravo universe, breaking down editing, casting, power dynamics, and the psychology behind reality television.
Elle Schwartz is a mental health counselor and creator of the show. Kat Vasseghi is a Bravo commentator and founder of Bravo Recs. The Good Edit Unfiltered w/ Elle & Kat is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and all major podcast platforms..
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Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (00:01.206)
Yeah, so that's basically what I wonder because usually when a housewife is going through a really difficult marriage, there have been times when like certain housewives kind of wanted to be on the show to have their own thing. And I do not blame them. More power to you.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (00:18.234)
Right, right. Right, and I know you and I have talked about this before offline. There does seem to be a trend with being a housewife and getting divorced. Sometimes you wonder, sometimes you wonder if...
the women in these relationships feel so oppressed in the relationship that the show not only becomes an outlet in order to find their true selves and now that they found themselves they don't feel like they need to stand in the shadow of, you know, this very powerful wealthy husband or does the show, and sometimes I wonder, I have no proof, does the show give them the voice?
and the fan base to help them move towards a decision of leaving the relationship that they would never have had before had they not been on the show because the fans, I mean, you heard Amanda even on Summer House not to bring up the Amanda of it all had to question, which I thought was a legitimate question. Did I get on this? Did I?
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (01:09.132)
Yeah.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (01:15.276)
Mhm. Yup.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (01:24.624)
Do I want to leave my husband because the fans are saying I should leave my husband or do I want to leave my husband because I really want to leave my husband? And so the fans really do not only contribute to this edit, but I wonder how much do the fans play into the decision making of some of these relationships that have gone awry.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (01:43.978)
It might be a whole heck of a lot. Yeah. And I know a lot of people live in the comments, like recently with the summer house scandal, people have been saying that Amanda was reading the comments and she's depressed. So I think maybe deactivating. don't know. I mean, if you know your storyline is going to be like controversial, I would just delete it off my phone.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (01:47.63)
Right, right.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (02:12.654)
Yeah, yeah. So I hope the best Rulla You know, I got the feeling at that lunch that Rulla is a very, that probably leads with good intentions. First of all, she's beautiful. And can I just say she's giving Daniel Staub energy? Cause I think Daniel Staub is a really pretty woman. But Rulla looks like she could really be her sister.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (02:30.732)
She's very pretty.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (02:35.872)
my god, you know who I was thinking, Al? Tanine. I feel like she looks like Tanine. They're both stunning. Yeah. Rulla, you are stunning.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (02:42.31)
The is so beautiful. Yes, and a tiny little thing she is. Yes, absolutely stunning. I could, I mean, let's go to the Studio 54 party and look.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (02:57.57)
That's where it's, yeah, I went really into that quickly.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (03:00.366)
How comfortable, how uncomfortable were you sitting at that table watching Jo-Ellen go at it with a
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (03:07.866)
Not as uncomfortable as Liz, apparently. Because she came in to break it up. But no, I really wanted to get to the bottom of this. It's... Look, I like Rulla, but I don't believe Rulla and Brian's story on just that front. I'm kind of believing Jo-Ellen and Gary more because she has the proof of the emails, you know?
Elle Schwartz - TGE (03:40.206)
Well, I don't know if this was an edit. I don't know if they pieced together the reactions on Bill's face to make him look guilty. I will say that Bill looked very guilty. He looked guilty from the private car and sitting at that table, he was so uncomfortable. And let's go back to the, I think it was the...
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (03:58.873)
Elle Schwartz - TGE (04:08.038)
first or second episode where she's talking to him about these rumors with the sunglasses on. Take your sunglasses off, see me eye to eye and let's really talk about who you're doing and screwing. Let's talk about it. Excuse my language. Sorry, mom. Had to go there. Had to go there, mom. So sorry. But let's really talk about it. And he is not leading with any sense of remorse.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (04:14.558)
Yes, at the pool, right?
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (04:25.816)
no.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (04:36.868)
He looked very uncomfortable to go to this party. He looked like he got caught. And I gotta give it to Jo-Ellen, although I do believe you should stay out of people's marriages and though you think you're helping, you're really not helping. Sometimes you gotta let people come to their own conclusions because deep down inside that wife kind of secretly knows what's happening, but is probably not ready to confront it. She was not letting him off the hook at any, she was like a bulldog in a bone.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (04:57.486)
Mm-hmm.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (05:05.526)
Yes, she kept her foot on his neck the whole time.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (05:06.463)
my gosh, that's what my dad used to say.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (05:13.646)
Aww.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (05:15.204)
She really did keep his foot on his neck.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (05:17.794)
She said, I'm not letting this go ever, ever, ever.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (05:21.158)
Well, and to her point, you should never, like, somebody calling your job and putting this mess into your nine to five, into your livelihood. yeah, yeah, I'm coming for your neck. And you know what? I've got to give it to her husband. Those two, Bonnie and Clyde, equal homicide. Kill and grind with every word.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (05:37.836)
Yes!
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (05:42.455)
They are perfect together. mean, look, they've had their, their sexual history has a lot to be answered for, as they've said, because there's rumors about them being swingers. And then Jo-Ellen's had a lot of her friends as swingers. Bottom line, this is what I would want in a man. Like, if there is a situation where another man is talking to me,
Elle Schwartz - TGE (05:46.734)
I loved it.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (06:11.754)
I want my man to step in as old school as it is, you know what I mean?
Elle Schwartz - TGE (06:16.094)
Old school. And the look in his eye, which was not an edit, he was serious. He was serious. He was giving, he was literally giving good fellas, catchy kind of energy for me, you know?
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (06:29.518)
Not Goodfellas. Speaking of Goodfellas, I didn't watch Scarface until I was 27 too.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (06:39.29)
Okay, we need to talk about that. I was very disappointed that she did not know who Scarface was. I was even more disappointed.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (06:47.566)
You're gonna hate me because I don't even like Scarface.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (06:52.518)
That's fine. I was disappointed at the fact that she didn't know what Scarface was and how old that made me. I knew it and she didn't know what it was. I don't know what was. But yeah, so I don't blame Joelle for, Jo-Ellen, sorry, I don't blame Jo-Ellen for.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (06:54.167)
Okay.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (07:00.364)
Hahaha!
Well, it's a personal vendetta.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (07:13.93)
know, standing in her truth and calling him out on that. And I kind of don't blame her for trying to be a girl's girl and saying, hey, you know, it's all out there. You're cheating on your wife. That's the show. But in real life, would I've done that? No, I would have probably just kept it to myself and talk to her privately and, or not at all. think people know what their husbands are doing.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (07:32.268)
Yes.
Facts, Elle. You said it so perfectly because if this was real life and you're at a pool party with your friends, the person's friends, your husband, there is no way you're just going to be like, hey, can I talk to you real quick and just start some mess at a pool party? And was it her children's party or am I mistaken?
Elle Schwartz - TGE (07:36.966)
You know, you know.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (07:53.358)
Right. Right.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (08:04.174)
Because I know there was one children's party.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (08:04.326)
Thank
Elle Schwartz - TGE (08:09.522)
This I don't recall. Help us out. I don't remember.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (08:12.692)
It's okay, it's okay. I'm sure they don't either. But I really love the way Gary handled it and then Jo-Ellen clearly did too because she announced to the entire group that he's getting some tonight.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (08:19.544)
I did too.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (08:29.438)
Oh, oh, Oh, yes, yes, he did say that. I turned him like, wait, what? Yes, you're right. did say that. Okay. Tell the world. All right. Good for you. And as you should. We'll leave it at that right.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (08:33.536)
Hahaha
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (08:44.094)
you sh- Amen! Listen, if that's my husband, I'm like, listen, whatever you want.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (08:51.846)
Absolutely, there is something kind of sensational and sexy about your man standing up for you, I cannot lie. What do you think about Jared and the coffee business?
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (09:02.146)
That is such a hard question for Jared and Ashley, think more than us, obviously more than us, but it's not making enough money. But I also think that Jared's ego needs a stream of income, even though Ashley makes more money as an influencer. What do you think, babe?
Elle Schwartz - TGE (09:10.918)
Yeah.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (09:27.481)
Mm-hmm.
Well, I just think that both I think that he has a dream and she's doing the good work of being a wife to help him realize that dream and giving him the support. But I also see a woman that's very lonely in her marriage right now. And, you know, the business should never be as or the the pursuit of the business or pursuit of success, pursuit of sex, pursuit of business or success should never be bigger than the marriage. But sometimes you can't really control that when you're so
passionate about something. So they seem a little disconnected. She remarked about how she's with the kids and you know he's at the coffee shop and he's not really there to support her in the way that she would like to be supported and that means something. I don't know how dialed in he is to where she's at with that. But I could be missing something.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (10:23.63)
I would say he's like 15 % dialed in out of a 1 to 100 scale.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (10:30.83)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I could see that be, I could see what you're saying on that. So I do hope they work that out. You know what my concern is, my bigger concern is?
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (10:41.71)
What a beef.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (10:45.702)
This cast needs to take lessons on how to throw a Studio 54 party from Erika Jayne and Rachel Zoe Nobody's outfit was screaming Studio 54 except for Ashley's outfit, the bangs, the jumpsuit, boom.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (10:58.936)
Ashley?
I loved her Ashley's outfit, I'm sorry.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (11:07.198)
It was like fitting the that fit fit but Jared not so much. I didn't really get where the jeans came in. Like maybe just wear some black dress pants. Lord knows you have it for when you go to Aubrey's or Audrey's.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (11:17.007)
Yeah.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (11:26.889)
You know, we have Kelsey and Bill giving the soft launch and Bill's walking in with the suit and the vest looking like a meathead all dressed up for prom. It was our homecoming rather. was just a lot going on. Not one person hit that Studio 54 look except for Ashley and Jared and you all did that. If you're going to do this party, do it right. Talk to Erika. I don't remember her.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (11:28.334)
Woo!
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (11:49.007)
And Dolores looked good though. my God, she was in the show for two seconds. And my question on a side note is, what's up with Dolores being on the show? Because for the last two episodes, we haven't seen any of Dolores. So I'm wondering if like, maybe at the end she'll have a bigger role.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (11:56.367)
Okay.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (12:13.414)
Well, she's a friend of and you know, she's a friend of and she's a housewife on Jersey. you know, I think her not dominating the show makes sense because we have to have these women evolve and mature into their own franchise without the help of Dolores. Obviously they don't really need Dolores. Dolores is just there because she's a friend of the group. I'm thinking that we're probably gonna see her take more center stage when Liz's storyline comes to the fore. And have a feeling Liz's storyline
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (12:15.592)
Hmm
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (12:40.546)
Good point.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (12:43.509)
is gonna really be about the Dino. Dino and Liz. Whatever that is.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (12:49.184)
and apparently, did you pick up on the fact that Liz said whatever Kelsey has going on with Dino was in their past? I have the exact quote, it was wild. So basically, Liz was insinuating that Dino and Kelsey had a thing.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (13:12.11)
You know, it is Rhode Island and apparently there's very fluid boundaries between mates and husbands and wives and swing sets and all of the things. So anything is possible. What I took away is each of these marital relationships is at a crossroad in one shape or, or, or. Right. Right. Go through it. Talk to me.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (13:31.406)
Oh my God, same. I literally, oh my God, I literally wrote that when I was thinking, was like, couples, cracks, and crossroads.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (13:45.252)
Yeah. Yeah.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (13:46.987)
We are like this. Okay, so, no, there's so many instances where I feel like this episode really showcased the relationships of the women. Like, we find out that Alicia is scared to get married for a very valid reason. Like, her fiance, who's also the father of her child, doesn't want to put her name on the deed or the mortgage, so.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (13:57.326)
Yes, good.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (14:15.444)
What does she have? And she went to a lawyer and even the lawyer told her you're not getting anything out of this. And then on another note, I feel like we have Ashley who's suffering at the hands of like your husband working too hard and not coming home enough. And I feel like a lot of people can agree with that. What do you think?
Elle Schwartz - TGE (14:41.51)
Yeah, I think you called it. think Rulla and her husband are the clearest example of being at a crossroad. They have this fallout from this affair that has shaken the marriage.
is being pushed to decide whether or not she can truly heal and rebuild or does she have to choose herself and go in a different direction and the brunch really illuminated that. You have Jared and his wife as you said, you nailed it. You know, she, like we said, she seems very lonely in her marriage and Jared is really consumed with this business. I've got to pause and I'm not making an accusation. Sometimes when people are really consumed with their business, is it the business? Is it the passion for coffee beans? Is it the Don Francisco of it all?
Or are you like is there something in that marriage that that where this becomes an excuse not to be home? Yeah, these are things that come up in my mind and I'm not saying one way or the other but these are things that kind of surface for me watching it but thy dynamic that they have is really kind of signaling that This is a partnership where either one or both of them feel abandoned and
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (15:29.782)
where he's actively hiding from it.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (15:52.715)
Yeah.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (15:52.782)
Is it an admission or are they going to choose the marriage? You know, are you going to meet her where she's at, where she's a mother that needs help? That's kind of interesting to watch. And then you have the Kelsey and the Bill, and this is less of a marriage crossroads and it's more like a life crossroads. Kelsey wants security and lifestyle and all the things in the golden handcuffs and Cartier. And she's got the emotional connection. Right. She's got the emotional connection with, with, you know, Bill who
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (15:59.554)
Yes.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (16:13.966)
Who doesn't?
Elle Schwartz - TGE (16:23.257)
She doesn't want to really let that go either, you know, but Bill is in it to win it. He shows up in a vest and some plaid, you know. He's there, you know.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (16:30.286)
He does. He's I don't know what about about his outfit was Studio 54. Like what part of that was Studio 54? However, look, do I think he's a nice guy? Of course, he seems like an amazing guy. Now, let's not forget Kelsey.
who doesn't wanna work. And she also said at that like brunch or tea time that I'll have as many kids as I have to as long as I'm getting a nanny. And it's things like that that I feel like maybe her other boyfriend can't really meet her on that. However, her Miami boyfriend who stays there half of the year, he's...
Definitely not giving her kids. So I don't know.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (17:29.422)
Yeah, I think the primary couples that I'm interested in seeing how they evolve couples wives whose crossroads seem to be a little bit more of a priority are Rulla and her husband and Jared and his wife. And I got to tell you, I don't I'm rooting for both of them because marriage is lovely and wonderful as we know. But Jared and his wife are the biggest concern and Rulla and and Brian, I believe it is. Yeah.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (17:57.909)
I worry for Rulla and Brian so much. Because they just seem like, at least when this was filming, which could have been 2025, I believe it was, they were not in a good place.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (18:14.886)
And you you gotta wonder how does the show help her heal that? Is the show gonna widen that divide as fans are ending the chat? Bloggers, podcasters are talking about this. Does that widen the divide in that marriage or is it gonna bring them closer? I think the latter. And so maybe the show itself and the fan base will help her choose. Speaking of marriages, let's get into...
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (18:33.054)
No, it widens the divide.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (18:44.868)
Our good old Scamanda West Ciara You know, we can't, we've got to talk a little bit about that. What's happening? I know you keep up with all the goss, I less so.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (18:48.82)
Ooh, speaking of adultery.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (19:00.48)
No, no, no, I will always tell you like whatever's going on. So as of our report yesterday, they went on a date and they went like somewhere in the city allegedly to watch a movie. And Amanda was, she did appear that she was picking her wedgie in the picture. Go on Bravo Recs
Elle Schwartz - TGE (19:21.894)
Huh? Wait, what?
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (19:28.672)
She's literally like me. No.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (19:28.902)
I'm not doing that.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (19:34.47)
I'll be right back. Hold on a second. I gotta circle the table.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (19:43.091)
Not circle the table!
Elle Schwartz - TGE (19:45.894)
actually did a 180. I didn't make the cut around.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (19:50.733)
You guys, I broke Elle. No, no. This is also so crazy. It's that, are you calling the paparazzi West? West. I don't think Amanda would, but how do they always know where y'all are?
Elle Schwartz - TGE (20:15.046)
Oh, right. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm still coming back to life. This is certifiable. This is some certifiable ish. I wish this was a Patreon version so I could really get deep and dirty, but this is certifiable. It's insane. And now you watch the old footage, similar to with the Scandoval you watch the old footage and you're like, Oh, yeah. How'd miss that?
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (20:27.52)
It's insane, like.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (20:39.876)
Like it all looks suspect, you see differently now and dear God. You know what? Ciara is gonna be fine. Kyle Cooke is gonna be fine. These two are not going to be fine. These two have some things that are ingrained as deep as that wedgie. And it's gonna take a lot more than five fingers to pull it out or two or however many she used.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (20:42.264)
Cough
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (20:51.79)
I hope so. I hope they both are.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (21:07.83)
whatever Wes wants to use.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (21:09.766)
Oh dear God help me Jesus. I didn't mean to bring Jesus into the chat. I'm so sorry. This is some certifiable.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (21:14.774)
Also, also...
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (21:19.912)
Sorry mom, I take it back mom, sorry I know you listen to us. It's some are calling it diabolical.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (21:31.588)
Certifiable diabolical, all of the things that radical, maniacal, all the calls, it's all of those. Sociopathical, I guess. It's all of the things.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (21:39.159)
So sociopathic even like. Narcissistical, but hold up. Did you see the post? So this is the latest latest. Did you see the post where Kyle Cooke said I've watched some hard to relive moments over the last 10 years? I've also seen things unfold as a viewer.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (21:52.998)
Ahhhh
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (22:06.648)
that I wasn't privy to as a cast member. And when I posted it, it was two hours later. So it seems like Kyle is really realizing that he did get majorly gaslighted.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (22:23.172)
You got majorly gassed. And I'm gonna tell you Kyle, you have some growth to do. You should not enter a relationship until you really nail down your emotional center and get strong in here and then go find somebody equally strong with you. Get out of the college dorm rooms. But now those dorm rooms make sense to me now. I know exactly why he was in those dorm. Yeah, at that point you're like.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (22:42.574)
You
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (22:47.714)
So do you think he felt it and he was just like, F it after this?
Elle Schwartz - TGE (22:52.334)
I think as a partner you feel when your partner, wife, whatever, are doing things sideways. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think he felt it and probably couldn't name it. And maybe that's why he couldn't find his words because he felt it was going on, but didn't know how to say, like, I feel like you're doing me dirty.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (22:59.508)
Yeah, I agree. I agree.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (23:14.501)
my god, you have such a good point.
I just thought of, wow.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (23:22.47)
I've always liked, I've always enjoyed Kyle, I'm gonna start again. Well, I've always enjoyed Kyle as a present son, Summerhouse. He's always made me laugh and I think deep down inside he is...
He has a big heart. just has some struggles like we all do. Like none of us is perfect. Right. And again, I say the way he stood for Ciara and at the time it was Maya and when they were talking about their journey and even this season, you know, of being casted on a show where they're only the two, the only two women of color as well as KJ and how he took ownership and says, we don't understand your struggle, but we're there for you. Like to me, okay.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (23:42.048)
Yeah
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (23:53.794)
Mm-hmm.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (24:02.328)
Mm-hmm.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (24:07.538)
You're on, I'm forever team Kyle on that one. But I do feel like he's got some healing to do. So you have two broken people that got married and they should have just probably never have been married. So, and finding himself is not at the DJ, DJ scratch a lot. Although he has gotten better with the, yeah, he's found his beat.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (24:10.421)
my god, Sam!
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (24:19.668)
Absolutely, Elle.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (24:27.436)
With the hands. go Kyle, go.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (24:31.046)
So there's growth, there's growth in that, there's progress in that, like sky's the limit, okay? But finding...
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (24:37.228)
Well, we're going to have to do a group trip to Kyle's next gig. So let us know if you're down. Comment, like, and subscribe.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (24:41.348)
We should do that.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (24:46.554)
hit like and subscribe. But his finding himself is not in that DJ booth finding himself in the applause and the validation from fans, which I think really drives himself. He needs to figure out who he is without applause and validation and being the center of attention.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (25:02.114)
That's gonna be so hard for him because I see his family and it seems like they praised him and they gave him so much love. And you would think that's amazing, right? Like, wow, what an amazing family. But it's been sad that a lot of young adults who were praised, they just feel like they're owed everything, you know?
Elle Schwartz - TGE (25:17.286)
All
Elle Schwartz - TGE (25:26.564)
Right, yeah. So, but rooting for you Kyle, and honestly, I just took a half lap around the table. Amanda, I'm rooting for you to get better. Heal thyself first. West.
You need to be like Ben and go down under and find yourself. And with that, we bid you adieu.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (25:45.614)
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (25:52.897)
Adios, Wes. I hope we don't have to see you on the city. Before we end it all, I just wanted to say one last thing about Rhode Island, and it was that I felt so bad for Rulla. Rulla, Rulla, sorry. And it's because Gary had Joe Allen's back the whole time, and Rulla was just looking at her husband, Bill, and she's like, hello.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (26:08.506)
Yes.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (26:21.782)
Are you gonna say anything? And that scene did it for me. Like I would get so triggered by that if it was my marriage. That's all.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (26:31.366)
Right, right, I would too, I would too. This has been fun. Rhode Island, keep doing what you're doing. Oh, so fun. And maybe we could be morphed into one of the dolls. Can we be a Bratz doll? Can we have like, can we literally personalize a Bratz doll? No, I'm looking it up right now. Oh my God, we can personalize a Bratz. We can personalize a Bratz doll.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (26:37.172)
Always fun with you, doll.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (26:46.978)
Do it!
Alisha, make it happen.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (27:00.17)
Maybe we should keep them while we do interviews and just seat them by ourselves.
Elle Schwartz - TGE (27:06.805)
I'm done with you. It's been a mixed up summer house. We dove into it a little bit. We're going to get into it tomorrow. We were going to do it tomorrow, but we've got another podcast to do. So thanks for listening. Love you guys fan base and love you more cat.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (27:23.722)
Love you so much and forever,
Elle Schwartz - TGE (27:26.928)
Forever, forever, ever, forever, See you on the other side.
Kat Vasseeghi -TGE Unfiltered (27:28.994)
forever ever...
Bye!