Speaker 0 (0:14): Yeah. Basically, Casa Amor is a bullshit.

Unknown Speaker (0:17): Yeah. It

Speaker 0 (0:19): is literally the ultimate relationship test and

Unknown Speaker (0:23): Yes.

Speaker 0 (0:24): A production machine that is built to manufacture betrayal, force Islanders to fall in love and build a connection within three days. And given that Islanders are like really testing the bond that they came in with. There's some that are just trying to hook up. Hi, Casey. It knows the difference.

Speaker 0 (0:46): And you know who else knows the difference? The fans know the difference. Yeah. Basically, Casa Amor is a is is bullshit.

Unknown Speaker (1:00): Yeah. It is literally

Speaker 0 (1:03): the ultimate relationship test. And Yes. A production machine that is built to manufacture betrayal, force islanders to fall in love and build a connection within three days. And given that, islanders are, like, really testing the bond that they came in with. They really are genuinely there testing the bond that they came in with, and nobody exemplified that more than Zach and Bryce, and Bryce actually surprised me.

Speaker 0 (1:31): And then there's some that are just trying to hook up. Hi, Casey. Hey,

Unknown Speaker (1:37): Corbin. Yeah. Oh God. And the

Unknown Speaker (1:40): edit knows the difference. And you know who else knows the difference? The fans know the difference.

Unknown Speaker (1:44): We know the difference.

Speaker 0 (1:46): Yeah. What, I don't even know where to go with you. This super, super disappointed in Casey, super impressed with Zach. They shocked me. Super impressed with Bryce.

Speaker 0 (2:02): He shocked me. Not only did he choose Trinity, but for one other reason, we'll get into that. Yeah. And I'm still on the fence about Sincerre.

Speaker 1 (2:13): I have been on the fence about him because look at how many times Melanie has been crying over this man. I almost like, I honestly want her to just couple up and, like, shove it in his face.

Speaker 0 (2:32): This week ends where there's a decoupling. But before all of that happened, we have Paso More, which was a hot mess. Stood out to you? Because I gotta tell you, I was really bothered. And I know the premise of the show, people.

Speaker 0 (2:46): We know the premise of the show is to test We just led with that. But even in the testing of connections, you could immediately see that there's some were just there straight for the they were, like, had no problem abandoning ship. And some, even though they were enjoying the moment, remember when the the bombshells first came out or the New Islanders first came out? They were definitely enjoying the moment, but you could tell they were kind of like, I don't know. That's how I took it.

Speaker 1 (3:11): They were so excited more than I would like out of my potential man. Like, they were literally so giddy, the guys. Oh my god. Oh my god. And then KC surprised me.

Speaker 1 (3:23): Zach surprised me, but it was during a competition that he had to kiss someone else. Which, Kat, did you think

Speaker 0 (3:31): that it was interesting. So you have Casa Moore and then you have these new guys that show up in in the villa. Right? Yeah. Girls weren't over the these girls are so instinctively loyal for the most part except for maybe Jen who's just willing to go wherever the wind goes.

Unknown Speaker (3:46): But Yeah. Or Jen. She's trying to find somebody. She's trying to find a safe space to land.

Speaker 1 (3:51): Kenzie too. Sorry.

Speaker 0 (3:53): Love Kenzie. I love Kenzie, though.

Speaker 1 (3:55): I love Kenzie, but she's, like, moving around a lot.

Speaker 0 (3:59): But I think she's doing the work of the of Love Island. I think she's really doing the work, but I think if it really came down to it had Corbin chose her, she would have much have probably she would have definitely chosen him back. But that livestream is what did her in because she was unapologetically into the Persian cat. He was Palmina. Palmina.

Speaker 0 (4:20): Okay. Let's since you brought that up,

Speaker 1 (4:24): why has there been racist issues in Love Island so far. So Paul Mina was accused of using the n word by putting it in a DM and saying, n, what's up? Basically, talking to a guy and being like, where are you at? But calling him, like, the n word in the beginning of the sentence. Now they're saying it's an alleged AI scheme because I didn't know about Palmina.

Speaker 1 (4:57): I wanted to be excited about my Persian sister, and then I heard on the radio what they were talking about with her using the n word. And I was like, no. Not the Persian girl. Not you.

Speaker 0 (5:12): Did she use it in conversation like, hey, Mike.

Unknown Speaker (5:15): Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (5:15): Like that?

Unknown Speaker (5:16): It was hey, Mike.

Unknown Speaker (5:18): Was it with the hard r?

Speaker 1 (5:21): You know, they blanked it out, and she's not kicked off. So it must have been a mistake or somebody trying to, like, screw her over. That's what it said when I looked it up. So it says that Paul Mina was falsely accused, but I don't know how they know that.

Unknown Speaker (5:39): Mhmm. Mhmm. Okay. And then so she's number one. Who's number two?

Speaker 1 (5:44): Okay. So Alana. Alana was kind of cut out. Like, they said formerly of Alana. I remember the episode where the guy, Ian, the voice, and he's like, and Alana is no longer in the villa.

Speaker 1 (6:02): So I was like, what? So Alana was dumped due to racist posts, and she had actual racist posts. So was it necessarily like a Paulina situation, like, hey, my whatever? But it says that she was axed from the show after resurfaced videos where she used a racial slur, and it doesn't say what racial slur. That's the thing.

Unknown Speaker (6:34): So

Unknown Speaker (6:37): let me get this straight. There's a video out there of her using the word.

Unknown Speaker (6:41): Yes.

Speaker 0 (6:41): Okay. I'm assuming it was with the hard r.

Speaker 1 (6:44): They don't even say n word. They say racial slur. That's the word they use.

Unknown Speaker (6:51): She was just using a racial slur in general.

Speaker 1 (6:52): Yeah. And this is from Deadline and she used a racial slur, Alana. This is Alana. Yes. And she was kicked off

Unknown Speaker (7:02): this week. What other things did she do? Was it just that video or was there more?

Speaker 1 (7:06): Apparently it was just that.

Speaker 0 (7:08): Okay. Yeah. None of this is surprising. Society's literacy on the power of that word and the contextual use of it is no one's dialed into that. I think the only people really understand it are black people in a real way.

Speaker 0 (7:26): So it doesn't surprise me that someone in this group or in this age demographic would use that word thinking like either just truly being racist or thinking like, oh, and use it in casual use. Would like to hope that whatever happened with Parmita, that that was casual.

Speaker 1 (7:45): It was. It was casual.

Speaker 0 (7:46): Well, it's it's being surfaced as casual. She shouldn't be using it anyway. It would be like us using a Persian euphemism that that belongs to you and only you, and it would be like me or somebody from the black community using that liberally when we have no cultural agency or space

Unknown Speaker (8:01): So to use

Unknown Speaker (8:02): it shouldn't be used regardless.

Speaker 1 (8:04): It shouldn't be used at all. Yeah. I've never used it. Like, I'm from New York, New Jersey. I've never felt the need to ever say that.

Speaker 1 (8:14): And I've I don't. I can honestly say that I there's not gonna be any tweets. No.

Speaker 0 (8:20): And So for me, the live feed was was literally the smoking gun. And even after the live feed, I noticed that the women in the village didn't go to the left with their new couplings. They just kinda kept it respectful. I was very impressed how Zeta was being so respectful of Zach. I was impressed how Melanie was being so respect in fact, all of them were respectful.

Speaker 0 (8:42): Now were. I know you and I talked before, and you had brought up that's one of the frustrations that the fan base has is that there are certain women or there are certain people on the show that couple up, and they get involved so quickly. And I suppose the premise of the show is to explore connections, explore connections, explore connections. But I think these women, they picked women that are real ones that are going into it for the right reasons, you know, maybe with the exception of Kinsey who is really doing the work. And I just don't know if it's in Anaya.

Speaker 0 (9:14): I don't know if it's in Trinity or even Melanie and Zeta to be disloyal. I think that that's just a part of their character. Maybe that's good for the show. Maybe it's not good for the show. But I tell you, my heart really warmed up when we saw Zach and Casa Amora really having a dilemma.

Speaker 0 (9:32): Like, I can't even really get into these connections because I'm thinking about her and I miss her so much. Yes. And don't you feel like that is a real connection? Like, I really feel that something.

Speaker 1 (9:43): Oh my god. That touched my heart. So Zach and Kaida touch my soul. They are

Unknown Speaker (9:52): true Yeah.

Speaker 1 (9:53): I truly think that Melanie and Kaida are they found their loves already.

Speaker 0 (10:02): I think I think so too. I think so too. And the real test is so I actually, the cost of more experience, while it's exhausting to watch, like I get so tired of watching all the over intimacy that's going on and I'm not intimacy avoidant. It's just a lot to watch and to take in constantly. But I appreciate that experiment.

Speaker 0 (10:23): I appreciate Casa Casa Amor experience because we see their loyalties really tested and you can quickly find out who is there for the real reasons and who is there just to hook up.

Speaker 1 (10:37): He's talking to you Corbin.

Speaker 0 (10:39): Exactly. So correct me if I'm wrong. Those who are the real ones, Zach, as we Zach

Unknown Speaker (10:44): and Kaida.

Speaker 0 (10:46): Bryce has surprised me because I didn't really think he was in for Trinity. And then you have Caleb who was there for the right reasons just to find

Unknown Speaker (10:56): Yeah, the right

Speaker 0 (10:58): yeah. And a lot sexier than he let on. I know, like who knew? Yeah, who knew, right? So you have those three that I think are really there for the right reasons.

Speaker 0 (11:13): And then you have Corbin and KC leading the pack and you have Sincere who I think really is into Melanie, but Sincere is not mature enough to just lock in on that. Or maybe he's doing the work of Love Island. You know, it does seem to me that he wants his cake and eat it too. And it does seem to me that he has a prepackaged prescriptive repertoire of words that he uses to bring girls in.

Speaker 1 (11:42): Oh my god. You hit the nail on the head with that. He's so one one way. I'm really feeling you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:50): I just feel this connection to you that I've never felt. You felt it with Melanie, liar. Yeah.

Speaker 0 (11:56): Yeah. Yeah. It's that's just how I that's how I took it. Casey, let's let's go there. Let's, I mean, let's talk about Casey.

Speaker 1 (12:08): Okay. I'm very disappointed in you, Casey, because Anaya loved you. Like, she wanted you, and she the way she looked when they showed them those pictures, I was like, Nayo. Don't even pick him anymore, girl.

Speaker 0 (12:27): It seems to me when Soul came into the house, that's when his attention from Anaya shifted. Did he just fall for Anaya because it was comfortable? She was a safe space. She was kind of like, okay, well, you know, I'll just go in this direction since I, you know, no one was there for me because I chose a plant. I'll just choose Anaya who was off.

Speaker 0 (12:46): But for a minute, it seemed like they worked. Right?

Speaker 1 (12:49): It seemed like they worked for, like, 15 episodes. Like, I thought they were really gonna come out of this

Unknown Speaker (12:57): as one

Speaker 1 (12:58): of the top couples. But I guess they were accidentally put together because nobody else, you know, chose them, but then he said he wanted to choose her. And this is very much in the beginning. He said, you know, I was gonna choose you. Is he just a smooth talker?

Speaker 1 (13:16): Like, is he just looking for the next big thing?

Speaker 0 (13:20): It's it it's a I think so. I think that he did say something kind of important and I'm wondering how much of this factors into it. Hear me when I say this, he said he's from South Central. There's a rich culture in South Central. She's from Georgia.

Speaker 0 (13:36): It seems like what family that's in the Upper Escalon of society that they are like that family. I'm wondering and not to say that there isn't success and wealth in South Central because it does exist, but I'm wondering what was his South Central experience and was it an experience that would not really blend with where she was at? She just came across a little bit more elevated and more mature than he was.

Unknown Speaker (14:01): Yeah.

Speaker 0 (14:02): And he seemed like he was still stuck. It seemed like he was just never in a place to reach her where she was at. Does that have anything to do with him being from South Central? Maybe. Does that have anything with her being from Atlanta?

Speaker 0 (14:13): Maybe. Or maybe he just really wanted just to truly, truly explore a connection. But I don't think that their connection would have worked in real life. And I always came across more mature and with a lot more depth, a lot more depth of experience, lot more just depth in terms of how she moves with people. And Casey never seemed to really have that depth.

Speaker 0 (14:37): They were cute when the season started, but as the season progressed, you kinda got the feeling that maybe this relationship works in the villa, but maybe would not be tested in real life. Mhmm. And then when Soul came into the picture, that's where we saw his attention shift. Like, oh, this connection is cool, but I wanna I wanna I want a bad.

Speaker 1 (15:01): No. And I'm sorry. That's when I stopped liking Casey. Mhmm. I don't dislike Casey to to each their own.

Speaker 1 (15:10): Like, hook up with whoever you wanna hook up with, but he told her all these things for, like, days, weeks. And now you just turn around and wanna explore with soul?

Unknown Speaker (15:23): Yeah. But the immediate thing and then we go to Casa Moore.

Unknown Speaker (15:26): And Right. Oh he was way too happy.

Speaker 0 (15:29): Yeah he was immediately drawn into TT and I forgot the other girl who reminded me so much of Anaya so he knew that wasn't gonna work. But he's immediately drawn into TT and they immediately get physical just like that Like, just like that. Do you think that maybe part of his frustration with Anaya was that she was so maybe she didn't jump on the intimacy train as quickly as he would have liked?

Speaker 1 (15:55): It could be that. I'm not sure if he ever mentioned it, but it could be that because he's a guy.

Unknown Speaker (16:01): Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:02): Seeing all the other homies, like, really get it in with their girls, like, when Gabriel was here, him and Jen literally did it in the room with everybody else. So I think he's seeing the guys get some, and he wants some.

Speaker 0 (16:22): I think so too. And I did hear him reference that Anaya wasn't just as open as some of these other girls in Casa I'm wondering if that was part of what factored into it. And then we switch over to Anaya, who really does have this strong connection with Carl. She admitted that she was still more drawn to Casey, and I think that's

Unknown Speaker (16:44): such a thing

Speaker 0 (16:45): that's super loyal, and she saw the future already, like, mapped out in her mind, and she wanted to stay true to that. But then you have Casey walk right back into the couple with Tiara. Now she's left And single and that reaction that she had, oh my God. I mean, Carl was even drawing a tear. And I'm like, please pick Carl.

Speaker 0 (17:07): Just please pick Carl. Carl is a real one. Carl is really into her. You could see that. I know.

Speaker 0 (17:13): He listens to her with her eyes, his body language. It's not performative. I don't think that this is a guy that would quickly go and explore another connection. He was really into her and such a gentleman. And only for Casey to come around that corner with that tiara was like, Oh my God.

Speaker 0 (17:34): Her heart, her eyes. Oh my I cried along with her, girl. I gotta tell you. But I was fired.

Speaker 1 (17:41): A tear. I shut a tear. Yeah. It's not okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:47): I'm sorry, but I was livid. Like, she chose you, and you were just here for what? Like, I'm over here like, what were you here for then? And I

Speaker 0 (18:01): I just think that there's two things. Okay. When these guys say, I want a connection, I want a connection, I don't think it's clearly defined what a connection is to them and what it means to them, right? Versus what a connection means to the girls in the villa. It seems to me, for example, when sincere Casey and Corbin talk about connection, it's purely that sexual connection.

Speaker 0 (18:28): That's what they're talking about.

Speaker 1 (18:29): Yes. Was thinking that and I was gonna yep.

Speaker 0 (18:33): And then the girls in the villa, their connection is truly leading with the heart.

Unknown Speaker (18:37): Yeah.

Speaker 0 (18:39): When you think about KC, I feel like he just went the basic route because I think that Anaya occupies a world outside of that villa that he just was never motivated to reach. So he just went with what was comfortable and with what he knew. And maybe that will work out. I hope that it does. I really do hope that it does, but I also hope that he is able to sustain attention to one person for the long haul and not just shift up because it gets uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (19:08): I just don't think he's here for the right reasons. I really think he wants to be the next big thing. He wants, you know, contracts and ads on his Instagram, and he wants to be an influencer. I really don't think he's here for the right reason. I think he would have chosen Aya if he was.

Unknown Speaker (19:29): Can we talk about Corbin, though?

Speaker 1 (19:31): Oh, Corbin is just like I don't even take him seriously.

Unknown Speaker (19:36): He is such an f boy.

Speaker 1 (19:37): He is. Corbin is the f boy of Love Island. Oh. So take him seriously ever. Like, when he was talking to Palmeida, I was like, girl.

Speaker 1 (19:47): But then, you know, when he when he was like, I'm hot, you're hot, we're just right here. That's the connection they're looking for.

Speaker 0 (20:00): Girl, can we talk about that? I mean, I know this Corbin guy. This Corbin guy is in all the clubs and he's the guy that wants to get with the hottest girl that's going to make him look good when they walk in the room. And Parmita too, they are so superficial and surface. They do not have what it takes to take for the long haul.

Unknown Speaker (20:21): As soon as another Persian baddie comes through the building, he's gonna be on to the next. This

Unknown Speaker (20:27): guy is not

Speaker 0 (20:28): loyal to anything but mister d.

Speaker 1 (20:31): Oh, a 100%, girl. He's only thinking with the d, and he just wants the baddest bee around. It's out every guy in freaking New York. Like, if you see a hot, super attractive man, that's kind of a to me, that's like a red flag. Like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:52): Like, I'd never wanna be less attractive than my partner. Well, I think there's a lot

Speaker 0 (20:59): of really good men, good looking men out there that are like stand up. And you know what? And if that's how you move, Corbin, if you move an f boy lane, just be real about it so that people know how to move with you or move apart from you. That that's the part. I mean, Kinsey's connection with Corbin was really sexually based.

Speaker 1 (21:20): That yeah. It wasn't real.

Speaker 0 (21:22): It was not real. It was just pure lust. So it's not surprising that he went over there, fell in love with the baddest girl in the room, or at least it seems that way. And for him to say Kinsey could be thrown out the window was ultimately rude because Kinsey lived she lived with her heart and sexual sexual attraction where he just lived with sexual attraction. Exactly.

Speaker 1 (21:49): At least she wanted a connection too because she kept saying that the whole time. Like, I don't feel a connection. I'm not sure if there's a connection. His connection is one thing and one thing only. Like, he is such an f boy.

Speaker 0 (22:05): And I am so glad that the girls in the villa dragged him for filthy, filth, filth while at the same time saying Persian cat looked amazing, and it wasn't really her. Because she did look amazing. She's she's a beautiful woman. But, oh, man. Dragged him fulfilled.

Speaker 0 (22:20): Tiffany is my girl. Tiffany is scared of nobody.

Unknown Speaker (22:23): I love her.

Unknown Speaker (22:25): I love her energy. That is a girl's girl.

Speaker 1 (22:29): Yeah. And we have a lot of girls' girls in the house.

Unknown Speaker (22:33): Let me know. Do.

Speaker 1 (22:34): I honestly feel like everybody, even Kenzie and Jen to Melanie, I feel like they're all kind of girls' girls. But maybe they just wanna appear that way to America. So

Speaker 0 (22:49): Yeah. Yeah. So Corbin, throw him off the the

Speaker 1 (22:54): Exactly. Take him off the island. Throw him off. And I'm mad at Bryce because she loved you, dog, and I'm being sarcastic. I know she didn't love him, but that he betrayed her.

Speaker 0 (23:09): But isn't that the point, though? I mean, there's no way that they're gonna go to Casa Amor and not have during challenges, have these girls kissing on them. They're gonna kiss all the girls in the bill. That's part of the thing. That's part of the experience.

Speaker 0 (23:22): Part of the experience is to explore the connection. But I remember him doing what you did. At first, I was upset too. But then I also noticed how he really didn't engage. He was all about Trinity.

Speaker 1 (23:36): He was all about Trinity. So I don't get, like, why he changed. He

Speaker 0 (23:43): didn't change, though. It's kinda like if you're dating if you have a roster, right, and you have seven guys that you are going on dates with and doing all the things, but you have that one guy that you're super loyalty loyal to, yeah, you're gonna kiss a dude good night, but you are not gonna give them all the things. And I never saw him really giving the girls his attention, really just dialing into them to really force this quote unquote connection that's beyond lust. You didn't see that. Was kind of

Unknown Speaker (24:08): Now like to

Speaker 0 (24:11): what we did see that I was like and it's just a little thing I was a little struck that Zach was kind of concerned about what was going on with Bryce in his pants and saw it and then reflected on it at the cabana or wherever they were sitting. I was like, yeah, know, by the way, it's really long. Know, and I mean

Speaker 1 (24:34): Are they bi? Because I don't know. Everybody is like bromance. Bromance. Bromance.

Unknown Speaker (24:40): It's a little bit more than a bromance. I mean, it is a bromance for sure.

Speaker 1 (24:44): It's a romance with bros.

Speaker 0 (24:47): Because I was thinking they should just couple up.

Speaker 1 (24:49): Me too. Just be with him. You're gonna love with him, Zach. Like, Zach, you love Bryce. Just tell him.

Speaker 0 (24:57): Maybe that's how people are doing bromances these days. Maybe that thing. Maybe but I know it was that part and then there was the part where they were getting ready and the camera cuts to Bryce standing over Zach, and then he takes his head and puts it towards his man parts?

Speaker 1 (25:16): They're into each other, and nobody can tell me they're not. I almost feel bad for Trinity and Keita because their men are into each other. Alleged.

Unknown Speaker (25:29): Is that what people are saying?

Unknown Speaker (25:31): No. It's in my opinion.

Unknown Speaker (25:34): Remember how Sandoval and Schwartz were really into each other? Yeah. Didn't know

Unknown Speaker (25:37): if they

Speaker 0 (25:37): were friends or if they're gay or whatever. But, you know, that is where this generation is at. They don't believe necessarily, like, the hierarchical one be with one person, one sex kind of a thing. Guess this is what they're doing now. And maybe that's where that falls in.

Speaker 0 (25:52): I'm just saying, I'm not trying to speculate what it is or what it isn't. I just thought it was like a very interesting interaction. And I don't know if that's indicative of a bromance or is that indicative of something else, but it was kind of like, oh, okay. That'd be different.

Speaker 1 (26:06): Gen z. That's the thing because I know in Gen z, little boys are being raised to hold each other's hands. They're being raised to hug each other. So it honestly could we're older than these people. So maybe the guy and guy comfort literally is Gen Z, and we just think it's not.

Speaker 0 (26:29): Yeah. And, you know, so that withstanding, he is undeniably loyal to Keita. I was really happy to see that. He was coupled up with Alana. And I guess by this point or after this show, she had been removed from the villa.

Speaker 0 (26:45): I would be interested to understand in what context she used this racial slur into who.

Speaker 1 (26:49): Right. So would I, but nobody's had it, and it's very disappointing.

Speaker 0 (26:55): Yeah. So but he he stayed loyal to Zeta. Zeta and was it Che? Che is his name?

Unknown Speaker (27:03): Che.

Speaker 0 (27:04): Zeta and Che were hot. I was kind of feeling their energy, but you could tell that she still wasn't a thousand percent bought in. And I really admire how she just kind of like stayed You neutral on know, he wanted to cuddle or sleep with her or whatever. And she was just like, yeah, you know, let me think about that. Know?

Speaker 0 (27:22): Yeah. Because she was still kind of writing for Zach. So we already knew that he had already picked her, and it was just really wonderful to see them kind of connect. I do think they have something real, but it also wouldn't surprise me if he's also maybe kind of might be a little bit into other things.

Speaker 1 (27:40): Listen. I mean, you can't be shocked. Right? When a guy first meets you, it's not like he looks at you in the eyes that is, like, celibate. Like, he's he's gonna do his thing.

Speaker 1 (27:51): I always assume in the beginning of or any relationship, just like Lil' Violent, that all men have a roster of seven, like you said. And my roster has always been, like, three because that's all I can handle, but you gotta have a roster. They have a roster.

Speaker 0 (28:07): Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Before the re coupling, I really appreciated Trinity starting to address something I've been worried about in the back of my mind is this interracial coupleship that she's in.

Unknown Speaker (28:22): So have

Speaker 0 (28:24): You know, this is over a period of three weeks or so that these guys are being connected and it's easy to see how feelings can form in three weeks on a romantic island and, you know, you think it's love and that relationship thus far is definitely working in the villa. I couldn't tell if Bryce was into Trinity because he was truly into her. Was he into her because she was it was taboo because that is a thing where some white men will pursue black women because of the taboo effect of it all? Or if he wasn't to her was he prepared to really handle dating a Black woman outside of the villa? Outside of the villa?

Speaker 1 (29:07): Yeah. So that's when you know that your friends are racist, when you bring an somebody of another race home. It's not your parents. It's really your friendship circle. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:20): And I'm not saying that out of experience, but I'm saying it out of a friend's experience where she did date a guy of another race, and it was, like, this big high school taboo. Like, it was like this crazy thing everybody was talking about.

Speaker 0 (29:38): I mean, we live in a very racially charged society and, you know, in any coupleship, whether black, white or otherwise are same, you're going to have threats to that relationship. When love chooses someone for you that is not of your race, there is another element to it that you have to be very resilient with. Here's the thing. If Bryce has a family and is in a community that is very liberal and very open and inclusive, then he already has some protective factors and some resiliency to deal with the outside world, right? But if his community and his family structure is not like that, then that's where it's going be.

Speaker 0 (30:27): That's where you're going have problems because that community, that family, your friendship group has to be intact for you to be able to move in the outside world in that interracial coupling. Right?

Speaker 1 (30:37): Absolutely. Or to even want it, don't you think? Yeah. Like, would would if you really well, you said he wanted to maybe, try something new, experience something different.

Unknown Speaker (30:51): You don't know.

Speaker 1 (30:52): That yeah. We don't know. That's very well possible.

Speaker 0 (30:55): But Bryce run me over in how he responded and how how emotional he was. Yes. After the coupling, and I'm like, okay, no, he he really is into her.

Speaker 1 (31:04): He really likes her. Also, the

Speaker 0 (31:06): new generation is different, though. They're a lot more inclusive than the older generations, and they just lead with love. They lead with acceptance far more than prior generations did.

Speaker 1 (31:15): So he's from Los Angeles as are you. So maybe that's what it is.

Unknown Speaker (31:20): He's not Yeah. Maybe a that's what it is too.

Speaker 1 (31:22): Super liberal. Like, nobody cares. It's like here. Like, nobody cares. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:28): Yeah. Like it's just people at the end of the day.

Speaker 0 (31:32): You know, the other thing though too, if you're in an interracial relationship and you're dating someone from an oppressed community that's been historically marginalized, you can't, and this is talking to Bryce Bryce can't live in white world. He literally has to put on his trinity black shoes.

Unknown Speaker (31:49): Yeah. You know?

Speaker 0 (31:49): And I don't mean black shoes and color, meaning her black experience and live that black experience with her every day. That means when you go into an elevator or a restaurant and you get those looks, you've got to be 10 toes down in that relationship and ride with her through that experience. You can't be desperate from it. And there's some people, and let's just say in the case of Black white relationships, where the white partner is purely into the person because she's beautiful or he's hot, but they don't necessarily ride with Black people or they don't necessarily ride with the experience. And then there's some that just fall in it and it's like pure love and they get all the sides and they want to know more and they're very aware of their privilege and they are constantly in check of it and they're living that relationship through the experience of that person of color that they've decided to date.

Unknown Speaker (32:41): And that's what you need.

Speaker 0 (32:43): Yeah. Feel like Bryce, based on what I saw today, I feel like, okay. There's a possibility he's in this to win this, and I think he might be capable of living and moving in the world with Trinity outside the villa in her shoes.

Speaker 1 (32:58): I think so too. I think he really likes her with all his heart, and he could see himself with her as his girlfriend, just walking around LA doing fun things. And nobody cares, you know, in LA. And you're right. It's one thing to date a black woman, but it's another thing to go to the cookout and, like, experience family.

Speaker 1 (33:22): Like Right.

Speaker 0 (33:24): Right. Right. Yeah. You know, Bryce, you're gonna have to learn how to play dominoes. You're gonna learn how to make raisins in it.

Speaker 0 (33:32): You're gonna have to know all about all the seasoning, every last seasoning in the world. You're gonna have to always travel with a jar of or container of slap your mama or Tony catchers in your purse. So in terms of Trinity and Bryce, that's Bryce's biggest test. Can he not only thrive with Trinity outside the villa, but is he prepared to walk into a whole new cultural landscape that may or may not be foreign to him? Because we don't know what his dating legacy was.

Speaker 0 (34:00): Maybe he has dated Black women before. Don't remember what the answer was to that. But he does seem very comfortable in those spaces. I like how he kind of embraces his his I can't dance kind of nerdiness, kind of like coptotes existence. I kinda I'm into it.

Unknown Speaker (34:15): I think they're adorable together.

Speaker 1 (34:18): Yeah. And I have to give Trinity the biggest shout out because when I was that age, I didn't know to look for the nice guy, but she knows.

Speaker 0 (34:29): She's so aware and so comfortable in her own skin and is not afraid to take a fight. She was not afraid to drag TT. She was not afraid to tell Corbin about himself. She is a girl's girl. I want her on my team.

Speaker 1 (34:46): Me too. She's the best friend ever. I'm brave AF.

Speaker 0 (34:51): Now on to Sincere. I can't figure him out, Kat.

Speaker 1 (34:54): What is who is this guy? I think low key, Sincere is like 50% f boy. Because how can you like Melanie that much and still hook up and like sleep with other people? And I just mean sleep sleep.

Speaker 0 (35:13): But again, say it it it it's not so much the connecting with other people because that is the work of the villa. That is the work of Cosimoire is to get in there and to explore the connections. I think the only thing that I struggle with with this show is that they don't clearly define what that connection is to that person that they are with. And maybe that's just their youth. I feel connected to you, but you don't take it further and say how I feel connected to you in relation to the other person that you were just connected to five minutes.

Speaker 0 (35:40): Right? So I feel like he is doing the work of the villa and of Cosimore. Where I struggle with him is that he overpromises connection, and he overpromises loyalty and all of that. And he always goes back to Melanie, so that's clearly, clearly real. But I think you're far too generous.

Speaker 0 (36:03): I think he's 75% F boy and 25% loyal, but Melanie is probably the one person that can challenge him to turn that around. But again, as much as I liked them together and as much as I liked him coming around the corner and she was happy,

Unknown Speaker (36:22): I just think that he

Unknown Speaker (36:24): is going to be a lot of work to train up to be a man who's loyal. He's a lot of work.

Speaker 1 (36:31): Like the type of guy who might cheat on you for like two years and then finally realize you're the one type of guy?

Speaker 0 (36:40): That too, but also based on what we've seen, yes, he's doing the work of the villa, but is this also really who he is? Because there's other people that are exploring connections, but they're holding up a boundary. Hi, Zach. Hi, guys. Right?

Unknown Speaker (36:58): If he

Speaker 0 (36:58): explores connections, then he gets tentacles deep into it, and he over overconnects, overpromises connection, only to return back to Melanie, which breaks her heart every time. So I feel like even the way she came at him and I mean, and she did drag him for filth, I was here for all of it. Even that's training up somebody who's supposed to be a grown ass man and a little bit more mature in how they move in that space.

Speaker 1 (37:24): And I wish I could say, no, I love them together. They're probably gonna be together, but I don't think that. I really don't think Sincere is ready for a serious relationship.

Speaker 0 (37:35): Don't think so either. I don't think so either. And I wonder, Kat, is Melanie also attracted to the tension within that relationship? The going back and forth, the dragging for filth and all of No,

Speaker 1 (37:47): it is a tough one because Melanie likes Sincere so early on. Yeah. So I wonder if she's almost like the type of girl that when you like somebody, you like somebody. Like, he has to do something to you for you to not like him anymore.

Speaker 0 (38:07): And that's possibly partly, cultural. She's very mature in her outlook and Yes. And at the same time, I think she gives sincere a little bit too much leeway, but the fact of the matter is she's fallen head over heels into serious like with this guy, maybe possibly love. And he has something to do with that. Whatever he over connected with or whatever he over shared with her in terms of his level of connection and his feelings, he has a lot to do with bringing, creating that buy in for her.

Speaker 0 (38:38): Now she's bought in. And when you go to cost some more, you're just not doing the work of the bill. You all, you, you all in it. You're all in it. And just ten minutes prior before coming back and re coupling with Melanie, he was telling the last connection how much he was into her.

Speaker 0 (38:51): He was telling his boys about how much he's into her. But also it seems too that maybe he's just taking advantage of exploring, and then I'm gonna get back to her when I'm done. Maybe that's what his mindset is. I'm just gonna explore, explore, explore.

Speaker 1 (39:03): I don't know. That's such a I mean both are very viable options to be honest because what we know is he's not sincere.

Unknown Speaker (39:14): That's what we Yeah,

Speaker 1 (39:16): we know sincere is not sincere because you can't be both things to both women. My god.

Unknown Speaker (39:24): And I feel like he just has a prescriptive package of telling girls what they need to hear to get to where he has to go.

Unknown Speaker (39:30): And I think that this

Speaker 0 (39:30): has worked for him for so long. There's yet another girlfriend that's just come out of the woodworks talking about that this is Yes. You know?

Unknown Speaker (39:39): And I believe her because I see the way he acts.

Unknown Speaker (39:45): He could

Speaker 1 (39:46): I think Melanie I don't even know, honestly, if the reason is, like, proximity to each other because she's from Philly and he's from New Jersey. And he's from a part of New Jersey that's very close to the part of Philly that she's from. I looked it up. And I wonder if he just wants like a girl to have on, you know what I mean? Think it's have on

Speaker 0 (40:13): Yeah. Yeah. I think there's a real connection there. I just don't think that he has a real commitment there. Whereas Melanie is connected and committed.

Speaker 0 (40:24): He's connected, but he's halfway committed because he really is taking advantage of this Love Island experience, bottom line, and trying to get with as many girls as he can. That's what he's giving to me. It

Unknown Speaker (40:35): sounds like

Speaker 0 (40:35): to me this is what he's always done because he's had prior girlfriends coming out the woodwork and saying, this is who he is. This is how that tracks. So I think for Melanie to be involved with him for the long term, it's gonna be a lot of tension and it's gonna be a lot of raising him up to be the man that she wants him to be. And that's where she could step back and decide that she deserves better.

Speaker 1 (40:57): She will. I think once

Unknown Speaker (40:58): she Eventually.

Speaker 1 (40:59): Like leaves the island and watches it, then she will. I I don't think she's seen that side of sincere yet. The nonchalant, like I don't give an F type because that's what I saw in the Villa.

Unknown Speaker (41:16): Well, she may not have seen it, but she certainly has experienced Or

Speaker 1 (41:19): I should say. Well, yeah, she never experienced it. She's never seen it, but once she watches this, I don't know.

Unknown Speaker (41:26): I mean, they saw she saw the live stream.

Speaker 1 (41:29): She saw the live stream.

Speaker 0 (41:30): Yeah. Has experienced his hurt and the weight of his decisions to over connect with people. So she knows what she's getting. I just wish that, and I'm not saying that Corey was the right guy for her either. I think Corey would have bored her tears.

Speaker 0 (41:45): I think Corey gave her what she needed to get through in the bill of, she tried to explore that, but she was never really all into it.

Speaker 1 (41:55): He I always would have felt that way about Corey and Melanie. When she was sleeping with him in the bed, was like, girl, what are you doing? Like, you don't even wanna be doing this. Yeah. But I'm sure Long's Sincere and she can't help herself.

Speaker 0 (42:11): Yeah. I think Sincere just wants to get with as many women as he can within the three week period. I know I got my eyes locked on Melanie. I'm leaving with Melanie, but in the impetus, I'm gonna go do what I gotta do. I'm gonna do what a player does, and I think that that's what we're getting from him.

Speaker 1 (42:24): Absolutely agree with you. It's like that phrase that Jay Z said, I was just effing them girls. I was gonna get right back. Like, think he really feels as though like you're my girl, like you're my woman, but if I wanna smash her, I'm gonna smash. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:42): And I think that might be how he is in real life. I can't say for sure, but it's my opinion.

Speaker 0 (42:48): I think so too. So in your opinion, who are the most legitimate connections?

Speaker 1 (42:54): Oh my God, Bryce and Trinity, for sure. You know what's sick? Melanie and Sisir.

Unknown Speaker (43:07): Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:08): And Zach and Keita. Those are mine. What about yours?

Speaker 0 (43:12): I would say all of those, but I'm really excited to see where Caleb and is it Jordan or Jayden goes? I can't wait to see where he goes with his new connection because they are cute together, and she is stunningly beautiful.

Speaker 1 (43:24): And he's never really had a chance.

Speaker 0 (43:26): No. No. I could immediately see that works.

Unknown Speaker (43:31): That's true.

Speaker 0 (43:32): What do you think about Kenzie and Dylan?

Speaker 1 (43:35): I don't know because Kenzie likes everyone. It's so hard for me like her perfect type was right there and she didn't choose him.

Unknown Speaker (43:47): Who? Caleb?

Unknown Speaker (43:48): Yeah, Caleb. The cow Yeah,

Speaker 0 (43:52): she did say she wanted somebody that was. That could was a little bit more stronger that could take care of her and he and his age was definitely an issue. It seems to me that she found the right person. I think Kenzie has been doing a great job of doing the work of the villa. She's exploring the connections.

Speaker 0 (44:07): She's telling guys to get to, you know, to f off once they prove that they're not loyal. She's leaning into Dylan. They seem to really work. And I like Dylan's humility and how he really talks to her about other things other things besides just being connected. You know, he's talking about family and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (44:23): No. She does seem to really like Dylan compared to Corbin. And what was his name? The other guy that wasn't Corbin that she liked? Because we can just say it.

Speaker 0 (44:37): She liked Gabe per second. She liked Caleb.

Speaker 1 (44:39): Gabe. That's what yeah. So that's why I'm so torn with her, but she might like Dylan. You're right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:47): Because their conversations were deeper than her other conversations. Like, you could tell Gabe just wanted her literally for her looks and Corbin. Like everybody just wants her for what she looks like and she wants somebody that wants her.

Speaker 0 (45:02): Yeah, I think so. And I like her and Dylan together. I like Dylan. I think that that's a good match. But then when I think about those couples that are not working, those couples that are very transient in their connections, the first one that comes to mind is Jen and Gal.

Speaker 1 (45:21): Oh my god. Of course.

Unknown Speaker (45:24): Gal is just there.

Unknown Speaker (45:25): Relationship of convenience.

Speaker 0 (45:28): Jen is not loyal to anybody. She just doesn't wanna be alone.

Unknown Speaker (45:31): She doesn't wanna go home. She doesn't wanna go home.

Speaker 0 (45:35): She doesn't want to be alone. She doesn't want to be uncoupled. Gal is not there for her. He could be less connected to her. He's so less connected to her than she thinks.

Unknown Speaker (45:41): I'm gonna give her an ass.

Unknown Speaker (45:42): And, he gives me West energy, and I find him hard to look at, period, because he reminds me of West for some reason.

Speaker 1 (45:48): That is such a good point. Oh my god. No, he does. And I think she's a really good actress.

Unknown Speaker (45:57): Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:57): You know what I mean? She makes every guy feel like they're her one. She pretends she's into them but she's just like, I wanna be on Love Island.

Speaker 0 (46:08): And on Love Island she is. I don't know if she's there for love. Those are my takes about Love Island. I don't really have much to say, and interestingly enough, Alana was not at the re coupling, so this was the point that she had left the villa.

Unknown Speaker (46:23): Right.

Unknown Speaker (46:24): So, yeah, I don't know. We've got 10 more episodes.

Speaker 1 (46:29): Oh, I'm sorry. I was gonna say, but I still don't think that Zach would have chosen her over I don't no way. I think he used it for what it was supposed to be used for. Like just kiss someone, you know, talk to them.

Speaker 0 (46:49): Do you think that thinking about your own journey and relationship that it is important to have an exploratory kind of experience. Okay. Tell

Speaker 1 (46:59): me. I can't believe I answered. My god. Girl. Like, 1000%.

Speaker 1 (47:06): And I tell all young women, if you're 21, 22, 23, do not move in with a guy. Don't have a boyfriend. Explore. Explore. Explore.

Speaker 1 (47:17): Go to clubs. Go to bars. You have to find yourself. And I would tell my daughter that. My mother told me that.

Speaker 1 (47:25): When I was in my twenties. She said, Never get married and never have kids, ever though. How do you feel about it?

Speaker 0 (47:34): No, I do think it's important to explore, and I agree with you. Like we said the other day, your twenties is just the most rich time to kind of do all of those things. And really, Love Island, honestly, it really is this microcosm of what we experience in real life in our 20s, trying to find connection. But the only thing is that we're doing it without the cameras on, and the people that we're exploring connections with are not privy to who we're exploring connections with. It's not in your face day to day.

Speaker 0 (47:59): So the stakes become higher on this Love Island show because it's And right there visibly with so your emotions and your sense of competition and your sense of wanting to be picked, which I think is very normal given where they are age wise.

Speaker 1 (48:16): Yeah. Everybody wants to be picked at And least

Speaker 0 (48:21): you say something really important because I believe when I believe it was Anaya and when Melanie were clapping back at both Sincere and KC. When Anaya was saying, pick me. You didn't pick me. I feel stupid, I feel delusional, it is so typical. It just brought me back to being younger that when breakups happen, we personalize the breakup like we are the problem, like we have

Unknown Speaker (48:51): done this

Speaker 0 (48:51): acne fall, like we are not enough. And nothing could be further from the truth. I mean, you've done a Wes and Amanda kind of thing, most breakups, when guys don't choose you, it has nothing to do with you. It just has to do with the fact that you can choose better. Somebody better will choose you.

Speaker 0 (49:10): So just watching her emotional outpouring just reminded me back to like, oh my god, used to think that. Like, oh, picked me. I'm not enough. I feel stupid. You have nothing to feel stupid about.

Speaker 1 (49:22): When I was first married, I felt stupid. Did. I was 18.

Unknown Speaker (49:27): Right. Right. Wow.

Speaker 1 (49:29): That's why I just wanted someone to pick me, like the first guy that asked. I was like, sure.

Speaker 0 (49:35): Yeah. So anyways, there we have it folks. Another Love Island week down for the count. I am looking forward to tomorrow and I just wonder because this is my first go around with Love Island and any of you guys can let us know what can we expect. Actually, no, I watched it season six, but I never finished it.

Unknown Speaker (49:53): But seems like Casa Amor is the biggest test. Can I assume that we're gonna have more bombshells come on the island now? God, I hope But

Unknown Speaker (50:01): you guys tell us.

Speaker 0 (50:03): I mean, what could be tested beyond Casa Moore, which is like the biggest ultimate test, right?

Speaker 1 (50:08): Yeah, Casa Moore is literally a metaphor for life.

Speaker 0 (50:13): It it really is. I wonder, we have what nine more episodes maybe to go? This time spent? Yeah. Is this time spent nurturing those relationships or will these relationships be further tested and will that, what would that look like?

Speaker 0 (50:26): Is it more bombshell energy? Is it more? Do the girls get a casa or more? What happens? Don't know.

Unknown Speaker (50:32): Exactly. I wanna know. So now we're

Unknown Speaker (50:35): good Alden. We have to know.

Speaker 1 (50:36): We are so into this now. It's funny.

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