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Explore the latest Bravo hot takes, including discussions on Lisa Vanderpump and Scheana Shay's feud and the intriguing possibility of Taylor Frankie Paul's return to The Bachelorette franchise. The episode unpacks the drama behind the scenes, touching on cast dynamics and production secrets.

Key Takeaways

  • The episode analyzes the power plays and manipulation behind reality TV feuds, using the Lisa Vanderpump and Scheana Shay conflict as an example.
  • There's speculation about Taylor Frankie Paul potentially returning to The Bachelorette franchise, despite past controversies, and how reality TV sometimes rewards bad behavior.
  • Discussions delve into the evolving dynamics of shows like RHOBH, the pressures on stars like Erika Jayne, and the transparency of younger generations regarding plastic surgery.
  • Insights are offered into cast return conditions, such as Garcelle Beauvais's stipulations for RHOBH, and the shifting 'anchor' role within the franchise.
  • The podcast examines the strategic positioning of 'friend of' cast members like Faye Resnick on RHOBH.

Taylor Frankie Paul's Potential Bachelorette Return and Bravo's Power Plays

In this episode of The Good Edit Unfiltered, hosts Elle Schwartz and Kat Vasseghi delve into the intricate world of Bravo cast dynamics, exploring manipulation, power plays, and the behind-the-scenes realities that shape our favorite reality TV stars. With a special focus on the possibility of Taylor Frankie Paul's return to The Bachelorette franchise, this episode unpacks the complex relationships and strategic decisions that drive the drama on and off-screen.

Lisa Vanderpump vs. Scheana Shay: A Calculated Power Move

Elle Schwartz, a seasoned entertainment journalist and Bravo insider, sheds light on the explosive feud between Lisa Vanderpump and Scheana Shay. The discussion goes beyond petty disagreements to analyze the strategic underpinnings of Scheana's alleged ban from Vanderpump's Las Vegas hotel. Schwartz explores whether this was a mere personal conflict or a calculated power move, and dissects Lisa Vanderpump's multifaceted role as both a reality star and a producer, questioning how her influence shapes the show's narrative. The episode also revisits Scheana's claims of gaslighting and manipulation, examining the messy backstory and the long-standing feud that has reverberated through the Bravo universe.

Shifting Culture: Transparency in Plastic Surgery and Mental Health

The conversation takes a turn to examine the evolving landscape of reality television and celebrity culture. The hosts discuss the increasing transparency around plastic surgery and mental health among younger generations of Bravo stars, exemplified by Melissa Gorga's daughter, Antonia. This trend is contrasted with the past tendency for public figures to deny such procedures, highlighting a cultural shift towards authenticity and open dialogue about personal choices and societal pressures.

The Bachelorette Franchise and Reality TV Opportunities

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the intriguing possibility of Taylor Frankie Paul returning to The Bachelorette. Ashley Lanconetti's belief in Paul's potential comeback is discussed, alongside the hosts' analysis of how past controversies and legal proceedings might impact her career. The episode raises a pertinent question: are opportunities in reality TV sometimes extended to individuals with controversial pasts, suggesting that notoriety can, in some cases, be a pathway to continued screen time?

Real Housewives Casting and On-Camera Authenticity

The episode also explores the dynamics of casting and authenticity within The Real Housewives franchises. The conditions set by Garcelle Beauvais for her potential return to The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills—namely, the removal of Erika Jayne or the return of Lisa Vanderpump—are debated. The hosts ponder Garcelle's current success off-camera and question whether her return is necessary. The evolution of RHOBH, from an ensemble cast to shows centered around specific personalities like Lisa Vanderpump and Kyle Richards, is also examined, with a look back at incidents like 'Puppygate' and its potential impact on cast departures.

Behind the Scenes: Privacy, Production, and the Power of the Edit

Further insights are provided into the pressures faced by stars like Erika Jayne, who may feel compelled to incorporate personal relationships into storylines. The hosts express empathy for her desire for privacy amidst ongoing legal battles and public scrutiny. The role of consistent figures like Faye Resnick on RHOBH is also discussed, questioning her current positioning and potential to contribute more to the narrative. Throughout the episode, Elle Schwartz and Kat Vasseghi emphasize that the edit is never accidental, offering receipts, context, and gossip that truly matters, going beyond surface-level recaps to explore the psychology and production strategies that define the Bravo universe.

The Good Edit Unfiltered w/ Elle and Kat is your go-to podcast for in-depth Bravo reality TV analysis. We cover franchises including RHOBH, RHOSLC, RHOP, RHONY, RHONJ, RHOA, RHORI, Vanderpump Rules, Summer House, and The Valley. Join us for recaps, deep dives, guest interviews, and hot takes that reveal what the edit leaves out.

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Frequently Asked Questions

Will Taylor Frankie Paul return to The Bachelorette?

The episode discusses the belief that Taylor Frankie Paul may return to The Bachelorette franchise, considering past drama and the potential for less-than-ideal behavior to be rewarded in reality television.

What is the truth behind Lisa Vanderpump and Scheana Shay's feud?

The hosts explore Scheana Shay's claims of manipulation and gaslighting by Lisa Vanderpump, questioning Vanderpump's role as a producer and the validity of these accusations within the context of Bravo's power dynamics.

Why did Garcelle Beauvais say she would return to RHOBH?

Garcelle Beauvais stated she would return to The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills under specific conditions, including the removal of Erika Jayne or the potential return of Lisa Vanderpump.

How has RHOBH's central figure changed over time?

The discussion covers how RHOBH shifted from an ensemble cast to focusing on Lisa Vanderpump, and later, Kyle Richards, with events like 'Puppygate' potentially influencing these changes.

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Unknown Speaker (2:06): Hey. Hey.

Unknown (2:08): Happy hump day, everybody. It's Wednesday. We're almost done with the week, and we wanted to give you guys some like a reason to drive to work today. We've got some podcasts for you.

Unknown (2:21): In the drive to work other than to get paid.

Unknown (2:24): Right? Other than to, like, pay our rent.

Unknown Speaker (2:29): My gosh. We

Unknown (2:31): all know Lisa Vanderpump, the queen of everything, which I'm so torn over the Sheena and Lisa of it all because I love them both, and I just want them to make up.

Unknown Speaker (2:45): That's not happening.

Unknown (2:47): It's not happening. Because I was gonna tell everybody that Sheena Shay has officially been banned from Lisa's new hotel in Vegas. Girl, what do you think?

Unknown (3:05): I I think I'm okay with that decision. I mean, you know,

Unknown (3:10): I mean think Sheena even wants to go.

Unknown (3:14): No. Come on. Come on. Everybody knows that Sheena is a wee bit thirsty. So

Unknown (3:20): She is thirsty. Look. I'm not gonna lie. She's thirsty. But if she cared, then why would she talk ish about Lisa?

Unknown (3:31): Right? So I feel like she really doesn't care anymore because she's the one who started it. That's why.

Unknown (3:39): So walk us through what this conflict is with Lisa and Sheena because I don't really check for Sheena at all. Of course. Away.

Unknown (3:48): I do because I love her. Hey, Sheena. But, no, I'm gonna but we're gonna give you the shortest possible version of this Lisa versus Sheena battle. Basically, what happened was Sheena claimed that Lisa Vanderpump gaslit her, low key used her real life pain from 2008 when she had an affair with Brandy's husband by mistake because she just said she doesn't know that he was married. Right?

Unknown (4:22): She's basically blaming Lisa for using her and that storyline to start her own show. And then she also did the claim where she said on her book, by the way, that while Scandivol was happening, that she wanted Sheena to interject and sort of have his back. So she didn't appreciate being used essentially. That's the gist of it.

Unknown (4:56): I see. I think Sheena is a very beautiful girl. I think she's a great mother and a great wife. She certainly has had Brock's back in terms of keeping his infidelity secret until it was not. And she does seem to be a good friend.

Unknown (5:12): I think she got a really bad end of the stick in the early days of Vanderpump rules where she was kind of bull well, hate to use the word bullied, but maybe bullied and isolated from the friend group by Stasi and Kristen at one time, and Katie, I believe. I mean, they were horribly mean to her. But that being stated, she's benefited from being on the show. And Yes. To go and cry manipulation now, I know if that argument holds water.

Unknown (5:49): Mean, I struggle with that because you've benefited greatly from the show. And you did have an affair with this guy. Maybe they didn't have Google back then and you couldn't research if he was married, but, you know, you did have an affair with this guy.

Unknown Speaker (6:09): I think they did have Google back then, I think.

Unknown (6:11): Oh, I don't know.

Unknown Speaker (6:13): I mean, no, no. I'm pretty sure they did. And

Unknown (6:18): you were on a reality TV show that requires you to bring everything out. It's I don't know. The manipulation thing is a hard sell for me, but you know what? I haven't read the book, so maybe there's more I need to read. My Neither first

Unknown (6:33): have I. We should do a book club about it, like me and you.

Unknown (6:38): My first thought is I I I don't know if that argument holds weight about being manipulated. I I I just don't. And Sandoval was your friend. I think it would be your natural predilection to wanna support him. You tried to support him and all the things.

Unknown Speaker (6:58): Mhmm. I mean Did.

Unknown Speaker (7:00): It was

Unknown (7:00): here's my question. Was was was Lisa manipulating or was Lisa producing like they all do?

Unknown (7:05): Oh, she was producing, baby. Like, I think she was producing. I think Sheena knew what was going on. You know what I mean? But she regrets it, I think.

Unknown (7:20): But in the case of Scandival or Sandoval rather, did that request come from a place where I'm really concerned about Sandoval? Can you please show him some support because I'm concerned about this guy's mental health? I think at one point we were all concerned about his mental health because he did not look like he was well, you know?

Unknown Speaker (7:42): Right.

Unknown (7:42): Or did it come from a place like, I want to manipulate you? Like, what does that mean? And these are just genuine questions that I have.

Unknown (7:50): Know. I think there's two truths, right? Like, she was manipulated, but she's easy to manipulate. So is that really manipulating if you just say something to somebody else and they just run with it, you know?

Unknown (8:08): Right. I mean, in the case of Sandoval, can you say something nice about him on the show? Well, yeah. I mean, he needed those good optics. For me, I don't personally see where that's a bad thing.

Unknown (8:19): Manipulating her pain of having an affair with the man and putting it out on TV. Okay. That was kind of maybe shady. But you were having an affair with Brandi Landfill's husband and it was going to come out in the show and you signed the fine line and you're good friends with Alex Baskin. I'm sure he probably hipped you to the fact that everything that you do is gonna come out.

Unknown (8:38): So I don't know if the argument of manipulation holds water just based on what I'm hearing now, but I probably need to read the book to hear all the things Me before too. Before

Unknown (8:48): I go forward. I don't know why I didn't buy it. Yeah. You know what it was? I wanted to go to her actual signing and I went on a trip and I couldn't

Unknown Speaker (8:57): make it. Do I love don't

Unknown Speaker (9:00): buy it, I do.

Unknown (9:02): I mean, I do love how she just cheekily made this song good as gold, and it's, like, forever burned in our brain. Like, you know? It's iconically Vanderpump rules.

Unknown (9:12): She's still wealthy probably because of it or depending, like, how that worked out.

Unknown (9:17): Little girl from Azusa, California made good.

Unknown Speaker (9:20): Made good. This adult. She

Unknown (9:23): can't sing worth a damn, but the song is is adorable.

Unknown (9:28): It's it's so poppy and it's so Vanderpump rules. But yeah, I have a lot of love for Sheena and I don't agree with what she did about Lisa. I don't. I don't either because I don't think you

Unknown (9:41): can bite the hand that feeds you. I think if you had an issue with all of this and take that to Lisa in private, but to drag Lisa Vanderpump, probably not the best idea just politically.

Unknown (9:55): I know. And look at her now. She's opening up the Vanderpump Hotel in Las Vegas and Sheena has been banned.

Unknown Speaker (10:05): Well, she holds a lot of power in that Brahma.

Unknown Speaker (10:07): Yes, she does.

Unknown (10:08): And so I think this is where you have to be smart about things.

Unknown (10:12): Now she owns Vegas.

Unknown (10:16): I mean, for what it's worth, you could say that you're leveraging this experience with Lisa to sell books. Mean, everybody's benefiting. Know. That's what I'm saying. Everybody's So just, I don't know, whatever.

Unknown Speaker (10:31): Next to

Unknown (10:32): be able to fly to the resort and-

Unknown Speaker (10:34): Yeah, let's go.

Unknown (10:35): Let's just do it. Honestly, if you told me that right now, I'd be like, I'm sick.

Unknown (10:41): Okay. That's not smart. Put that out there like that. She is not sick, boss.

Unknown (10:50): Party manager. But in other news, the beautiful, gorgeous daughter of Melissa Gorga decided to get a nose job. And Melissa is saying she's showing everybody her journey, which I didn't do because I totally denied it. So it's basically this gen Z versus I believe Melissa is like Gen X. So it's totally the new trend to talk about what you did.

Unknown (11:22): People don't wanna gatekeep. Like I know Kylie Jenner did it. One of her friends, Stassie, did it. I know a lot of women getting surgery now, they're not denying it. They're just telling people what they did.

Unknown (11:37): And I love that. Well, nobody

Unknown (11:40): should be shamed for it. People have been getting cosmetic surgery since the golden age quite as it's kept. I think some version of it, although, you know, in its earliest form, whatever people wanna do. I mean, that's great. I mean, that makes her feel better.

Unknown (11:55): Exactly. I always feel like nose jobs come from youth and being made fun of that in your youth. And it just stays with you. Well, that's what happened with me. And I can't speak for anybody else, but you know, like big nose, big nose, big nose.

Unknown (12:16): Like, yeah, you're gonna get a nose job when you're older.

Unknown (12:20): Only thing with the nose job is that, and I heard you say it the other day on the show was, you know, because that's what Persians do, you know, the nose. It's almost like and I know nose features or nose features on black Americans is sometimes has been an issue and a point of contention of people being made fun of because it doesn't adhere to the American standard or the American ideal. And so that's where I have a little kind of like tension with that is that I'm not going to change like what's inherently like culturally specific to me and beautiful to me for the sake of trying to blend in with the American culture and move towards this like beauty standard that has been that's really a fallacy in itself. So but I understand that people feel like that that they need to do that. But sometimes I think it's motivated just by I want to fit in and look like this euro.

Unknown Speaker (13:16): Yeah. Being bullied.

Unknown Speaker (13:18): Euron Asian standard European standard,

Unknown Speaker (13:21): It is.

Unknown (13:22): But I can understand the scars of being, you know, being bullied. I was bullied as a kid for my looks and for being black and all the things. And, yeah, then it was it was it was definitely painful. It was definitely painful. But somehow I pushed through it though.

Unknown (13:40): And it's honestly, it's made me a better person.

Unknown Speaker (13:42): And it does make you a better Look at you now. You're powerful. You are too sick. It does make you a better person.

Unknown Speaker (13:50): Oh, yeah.

Unknown (13:51): I found that in general though, this is so like crazy to say, but think about it. You do get more jobs. You get more opportunities. And that's how sick the world is because Because

Unknown (14:05): you have a nose job, you get more opportunities?

Unknown (14:07): You do. Because when you have this big nose, like, it's always like, she's pretty, but like, look at her. I don't know if we can hire her. I swear to God. You really do.

Unknown (14:21): Yeah. Isn't that sick? And that is the European standard that you were just saying.

Unknown (14:29): Yeah. I have so much to say about that. It's It's really quite fascinating, but in shaming somebody for their looks, just think is just unacceptable.

Unknown Speaker (14:44): I do as well.

Unknown (14:46): And bullying somebody for how they look, if you've ever been through that is very unacceptable. But here's the thing, when I think back about my childhood and how I went through some things of being isolated socially.

Unknown Speaker (14:59): I'm sorry. Oh

Unknown (15:01): no, don't be. I had nobody to choose but myself. I had to bet on myself every day. And that's kind of stayed with me. And I had to choose to like how I looked.

Unknown (15:11): Had to choose to love my brown skin. My parents and my extended family would not give me any other choice but to do that. So I didn't have a choice to buy into that. But not everybody has those protective factors, if you will. I can understand how someone who's Persian that has an authentically Persian nose and features and they come into, you know, America or to an environment where nobody looks like them, you know, they're kind of being dragged for it.

Unknown (15:45): Like, that's the first thing that they're gonna wanna do. So that makes sense to me. And good for your what's Antonia? Good for Antonia.

Unknown (15:52): Maurice, congratulations, Antonia.

Unknown (15:55): For doing that. Yeah.

Unknown (15:56): Yeah. And it just goes to show how gen Z is so different. Yeah. Gen X or millennials, because Melissa was like, I would never even admit it. But then now it's something that Gen Z posts.

Unknown (16:14): Yeah. They talk about it. So that's

Unknown (16:16): They are the generation of transparency for sure.

Unknown (16:19): They really are. And I would like to learn from that honestly, because it seems so freeing, you know? So speaking of Bravo celebrities, Ashley Lanconetti from Rory had something to say about the Bachelorette franchise. She thinks that Taylor Frankie Paul is not gone yet. Even with all the drama with her kids and her baby daddy.

Unknown (16:47): In an interview with Us Magazine or US Magazine, she says that she doesn't believe we've seen the last of Taylor Frankie Paul on the journey of The Bachelorette. And she said verbatim, I think as the court decides that she is more and more able to be with her child in the future, it likely could probably affect the series, Ashley says, and how crazy is that, that your legal, your legal expectations or findings are that affects your actual job.

Unknown (17:29): Oh, she'll be back on.

Unknown Speaker (17:31): She'll be

Unknown (17:33): on Dancing With The Stars and all the things. Sometimes people's bad behavior is rewarded with the reality show, so I don't think she's gone either.

Unknown (17:39): I mean, look at Spencer Pratt. Okay. But, yeah, Taylor Taylor is hopeful that the bachelor season that they cut her out of, like, they canceled her entire season because of that issue because of the DV of it all. So she's hopeful that we will see it. And Ashley from Rory is backing her up and she's saying she really thinks we're gonna see it.

Unknown Speaker (18:07): Oh, yeah. You probably will.

Unknown (18:09): I don't watch The Bachelorette or The Bachelor, but I would watch if Taylor was on. So

Unknown (18:17): Yeah. I only watched it with when Rachel Lindsay was on.

Unknown Speaker (18:21): Aw, I would have too.

Unknown (18:23): And yeah, I don't really have the patience for that show. Most of all, hope Taylor Frankie Paul gets some help.

Unknown (18:33): Yeah, she is. I heard she's in therapy. That's what she said. Unless she's I mean, I hope she's in therapy. Yeah.

Unknown (18:43): Because,

Unknown (18:45): I mean, as we've talked about it before, personality like that, are the cameras gonna really help her? Is it gonna embolden her and bring out the worst? And, you know, that's

Unknown Speaker (18:53): I the know. Look at Farrah Abraham from Teen Mom.

Unknown (18:58): I mean Whatever happened to Farrah?

Unknown (19:00): The she's she has an OnlyFans. Oh, implants are implanting. Great. Her surgery is surgery ing. And I feel so bad because I just feel like the outside view made her not like herself.

Unknown (19:18): And that's a personal opinion.

Unknown (19:20): She was absolutely stunning. She was. Out the gate, I just hated the way she treated her mother. I could not stand watching how terribly abusive she was for her mother. And it turned me all the way off.

Unknown (19:32): I mean, that's your mom. Come on now. Like

Unknown (19:35): I wish she would've just kept her chef dreams and not been famous. Because now she's like an OnlyFans, which look, there's nothing wrong with that. But it's just the look in general that I feel like she's not happy with herself.

Unknown Speaker (19:50): I gotta Google and see what she looks like. Was absolutely

Unknown (19:52): Oh my god. Do it. Please. So speaking of nothing to do with this, Garcelle Bouvet would return to RHOBH under this one condition. Guess what?

Unknown Speaker (20:06): Guess what it is.

Unknown Speaker (20:10): She wants Erica off the show.

Unknown (20:12): Oh my God. Good point. She does. She also said she would return if Lisa Vanderpump returns. And I think she knows that's never gonna happen.

Unknown (20:24): I think that's why she said it. And that's per reality blurb.

Unknown (20:31): Garcelle doesn't need to come back to the show. I'm sorry. I don't think the show is good for Garcelle. I think I mean, Garcelle is living her best authentic life off camera, and it's so fun to watch. She's a real housewife.

Unknown Speaker (20:44): He

Unknown (20:44): really does have a real housewife experience. Yeah. Away from real housewives stay over there like and I'm and I'm saying that because I am a fan of. Of Garcelle. I'm loving watching her journey.

Unknown (20:57): So for her to come back on the show, I nah. I I I wouldn't wanna see that.

Unknown (21:02): I'm such a fan of Garcelle. She's

Unknown Speaker (21:04): such Me too.

Unknown (21:05): She came across as a really sweet, person. Look at what she did with Sutton. She had Sutton's back to her own detriment.

Unknown (21:14): To her own detriment. I I I think she's what she's saying is that she's never coming back.

Unknown (21:20): That's what I think. I think she's saying when pigs fly because I don't think Lisa I think Lisa might entertain it when Kyle leaves, but I don't think we're ever gonna see a Kyle and Lisa season. I I doubt

Unknown (21:38): enjoyed Garcelle on Beverly Hills. I did not enjoy watching her be dragged. I enjoy her so much more in her real authentic life, taking meetings, you know, and walking red carpets and doing all the things. I think she's so fun to watch and inspiring at the same time. I had a question though about Beverly Hills that I've been meaning to ask you.

Unknown Speaker (21:59): Oh my God, please.

Unknown (22:00): Yeah, this came across my mind and maybe audience, you can help us answer this. But when Beverly Hills first came out, when it first launched, there wasn't really one housewife and I'm thinking about season one, season two that was the anchor of the show. Like, they all pulled their equal weight, if I remember correctly. Now, at some point, it seemed to me that Beverly Hills became Lisa's show. Like, when you thought of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, you immediately thought of Lisa.

Unknown (22:33): Agree.

Unknown (22:34): And she was kind of like, for lack of a better word, the queen of that that franchise until Poppy Yate until she left. And then Kyle steps in and has been really the center and the core of the show ever since. How did that happen?

Unknown (22:59): I was dying to hear your question. What okay. Kat, my just opinion as Kat is that Puppygate ruined it all. And they set her up. I think she was set up.

Unknown (23:16): That was my question. That's my ultimate question.

Unknown (23:19): I think, like, I'm not saying this is 100% true. I'm just saying in my opinion, Dorit is the one that returned the dog, right? The rules are if the dog doesn't work out for you, you give it back to the Lisa's shelter. Couldn't she just give the dog back? Why did she have to like give it to another family and then they were possibly going to, you know, 86 the dog.

Unknown (23:51): The story in my head was that first of all, the way Doreet handled that dog situation was absolutely abominable. Should have picked

Unknown Speaker (23:58): up her

Unknown (23:58): phone, called Lisa and returned the dog period. That's it. I think Camille Grammer agrees with that. I think we can all agree that the way she handled that was piss poor for sure.

Unknown (24:07): You know what? I don't mean to interrupt you, but I even think Teddy and Kyle agree with that. I just think they wanted any reason to get her off the show.

Unknown (24:17): And my thought was that they move her off the show so that Kyle could be the queen of the show?

Unknown Speaker (24:23): Yes. How

Unknown (24:24): juvenile if that really happened?

Unknown (24:26): Teddy is so into Kyle. I think Teddy would definitely did it unintentionally. They all did, and that's when they formed the Fox Force five, isn't it? Yeah. It was with Brenna.

Unknown (24:40): I don't know why they necessarily wanted to get Lisa off so bad, unless it was just jealousy that she was the queen bee and they, I don't know.

Unknown (24:50): And we have no proof that that's what happened. But as I was driving, I thought, did they I know like seasons later reaction, a delayed reaction from seasons gone by. Oh, I bet you they manipulated that so that they can push her off the show for whatever reason. Maybe they thought she was dragging the show down. The bottom line is when you have your own life outside of the show, you do infinitely better.

Unknown (25:13): And we have Rena, we have Camille, we have Garcelle, we have Lisa, we have Joyce Gerard, we have

Unknown (25:22): Eileen Davidson.

Unknown (25:24): Eileen Davidson.

Unknown (25:25): Lisa Brenna, unless you said that already.

Unknown (25:28): Yeah, said that one. And Catherine Edwards is doing some phenomenal stuff, right? So you can the queen is still gonna queen no matter where she lands.

Unknown Speaker (25:42): No on matter where she top.

Unknown (25:45): No matter where she lands.

Unknown (25:46): She is making videos with Lifetime. She's not just starring in them. She's literally making them with Lifetime. Barcela's doing great.

Unknown (25:57): As far as Lisa's concerned, is she manipulative? Probably so. She's a businesswoman.

Unknown Speaker (26:03): Maybe naturally.

Unknown (26:05): Does she produce? Definitely. Definitely.

Unknown (26:10): I love how we don't mind. Did she? Of course.

Unknown (26:15): Yeah. I mean, does she have contacts with Radar Online and all of that? She does. Do I think that she planted that story? I'm going to say no by the way she reacted to that accusation because that was a visceral, real emotion.

Unknown (26:31): And that was when goodbye Kyle occurred.

Unknown (26:35): Yes. Yeah. But did she manipulate Sheena? Like, I don't know. Should she come back to Beverly Hills?

Unknown (26:47): Definitely not. Should Garcelle? Absolutely not.

Unknown Speaker (26:50): Yeah. Yeah. Never.

Unknown Speaker (26:52): Lisa said she'll come back for $5,000,000. I think it was 4 or $5,000,000.

Unknown (26:57): She says different things in every TMZ interview, doesn't she?

Unknown Speaker (27:01): She does. She does.

Unknown (27:03): She's she's effing with us. She's trolling us all. And it's funny that Garcelle's doing the same thing now, but I honestly don't think anybody loves filming with Kyle. I just think it's hard because you see a producer's pet that really doesn't have any consequences.

Unknown (27:22): Well, I think that that was the difference between, and this is what got me thinking about it, when you think about season one through three, maybe four. Yeah. When you think about season one through four, especially the first two seasons, the it was just so organic and fun to watch and not overly produced, You know?

Unknown Speaker (27:42): Yeah. And Of course. Yeah.

Unknown (27:46): And now it's just something's not working as we are. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (27:53): Okay. Right. Now it

Unknown (27:55): seems all very manufactured in some ways, and people are not really going in and telling all of their lives for, you know, obviously for legal reasons, like in Erica's case, I get that, you know, in some cases. Yes. But but I hear

Unknown Speaker (28:10): Yeah. Sorry. Go ahead.

Unknown (28:11): I hear that there's they're putting pressure on her to tell and show her all of her life for this next season, particularly as it relates to John McPhee who she's dating. Like, the producers Really? Possibly want her to really bring him into the storyline.

Unknown (28:32): And she seemed so private about that.

Unknown (28:37): On one hand, I can't blame her. I know it's a job. I know it's a job, but my god, she's been dragged to filth and that relationship was all in the media. And maybe for the first time she wants to experiencing something that she considers good and private. That makes sense to me much as how Kyle is doing that, you know?

Unknown (28:59): So true.

Unknown (28:59): And that's where I go back to. I know that everybody wants, I mean, I know that the producers want you to bear your entire life. But I also feel like it's okay to say, okay. Yes. But not my children.

Unknown (29:12): Okay. Yes. But not my relationship at this time. Like, I feel like they should have some autonomy in that.

Unknown (29:17): I agree with you, Elle, honestly, with every single thing you said, because at the end of the day, if the partner doesn't want to be on the show, then it is what it is. You can't force a regular person to just turn into an overnight reality star. Like, I would have to think about it as well. I'm sure we all would. But props to everybody who's dating them too, because it's not always easy.

Unknown (29:47): Yeah. And I don't feel like Erica's boyfriend is used to this at all or has ever done anything like this.

Unknown (29:56): Yeah. I mean, and he has his own brand of controversy surrounding him and accusations about who he is and who he's not. I mean, she's probably not ready to deal with that. She's just coming out of, like, you know, pretty egregious allegations and all of that and the lawsuits and

Unknown (30:15): But she won or she settled.

Unknown (30:18): Yeah. And no matter how you feel about it, you know, that's a lot. You know, she probably just wants to keep this one part of her life sacred and not have that under public scrutiny. That makes sense.

Unknown Speaker (30:28): That

Unknown (30:30): does definitely make sense to me.

Unknown (30:32): And I just feel like it's been like five years of misery until

Unknown Speaker (30:37): Five years. Wow.

Unknown (30:38): It's like, just leave me alone. I think she just needs to be left alone. I get it. I so get it. She just went to court again.

Unknown (30:50): It's hard. Yeah. So props, Erica.

Unknown (30:56): It's gonna be interesting to see where that show goes and who they're going to cast and how it's going to be different.

Unknown Speaker (31:01): Know. Come

Unknown Speaker (31:02): on, Lori Laughlin. Come on.

Unknown Speaker (31:03): Come on. Bring

Unknown (31:05): that full house USC scandal energy to the 09/00/2021 o. And and tell us how you've evolved and doing and living your best life. She is friends with them. I mean, she she is in the circle, so she might as well just come

Unknown (31:18): on. Please. Yeah. And does Faye Resnick really not wanna film ever? Because Faye is practically in the show.

Unknown (31:27): I think Faye has done a great job of being a a friend of the a friend of the producer Kyle show. I like I like like Faye's positioning on the show just as she is. I think it's Okay.

Unknown (31:40): Yeah. Maybe she doesn't have anything to give, and that's why I'm not

Unknown (31:45): Oh, she got something to give, honey. She's going to give it. I think she definitely has something to give, but I also think that I think she's most interesting being a friend of or, you know

Unknown Speaker (31:56): Interesting. Okay. Gotcha. Well, she's got stuff to give.

Unknown Speaker (32:00): She's Faye Resnick now.

Unknown (32:02): Well, is a great day of Hot Topics. I feel like we got a lot out of it. We

Unknown (32:07): gotta apologize to you. We're gonna bring Love Island today, but I gotta tell you, audience, I literally fell asleep watching it yesterday, not because I was bored because I was so bloody tired. So we're behind, so please be patient with us.

Unknown (32:20): We're gonna do In the City. We're gonna do Love Island, and it's gonna be amazing.

Unknown (32:25): So much. I know. I I fell asleep on the last episode. Ugh. I'm so tired.

Unknown (32:30): But, yeah, we're definitely gonna be recapping Love Island. I think we should also do a Love Island Saturday with with Kimberly Bryant.

Unknown Speaker (32:37): Oh my god. We love Kimberly. That would be amazing.

Unknown (32:41): We have in the city, and we have the valley and, some interesting news about the valley that will embed in the valley recap. So

Unknown Speaker (32:52): Interesting. Now now you got me now you got me over here. Like, what?

Unknown (32:57): Well, you know, there's just a couple of things we missed in our recap last week that I just

Unknown (33:01): Oh, I can't wait.

Unknown Speaker (33:03): No. It's not that big of deal. Just, you know, like,

Unknown Speaker (33:09): No, no, no. You don't have to say it. I just thought it was amazing.

Unknown (33:13): Yeah. So I just wanna resurface that and embed it in

Unknown Speaker (33:16): our But

Unknown Speaker (33:18): anyways, the time has been had.

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