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Unknown Speaker (1:47): Hey, you.

Unknown Speaker (1:48): Hey, you. How's it going?

Unknown (1:50): Good. I'm ready to get into in the city. You know what? A lot of people have some, I shouldn't just say people. A lot of fans don't really care for this show for whatever reason.

Unknown (2:03): And I gotta tell you, I watched this last episode and what really stands out for me is that it is really about high level adulting and relationships, relationships that are reconciliating, relationships that are breaking up Mhmm. And relationships that are being tested. And Amanda and Kyle, obviously, they're always in the forefront of every episode and will be for the rest of the season. But it was really Kenny and Whitney and how Whitney stood up for him to find his mom that led him to his dad. And that reconciliation between Kenny and his dad made Kenny make so much sense to me.

Unknown Speaker (2:44): It was amazing.

Unknown Speaker (2:46): Especially after Father's Day was gold.

Unknown (2:49): Aw. Yeah. I loved the reconciliation with Kenny's dad. Mhmm. At first, we were worried because we didn't know too much about him.

Unknown (2:59): And Whitney, Kenny, and the investigator, we didn't know where it was gonna go and the audience. And luckily, it led to the most beautiful reunion in the end of the show, and they both cried. Even on the phone when his dad cried, I felt that. That was powerful.

Unknown (3:20): Yeah. Someone in, I think it was Reddit, of course, where all logic goes and dies, said that or felt that maybe that was produced, him trying to find his father was such a production. I mean, parental abandonment is a real thing. And I can't imagine him trying to produce that. I think that that was a real journey that was so important to him.

Unknown (3:52): And he went from somebody who immediately had my attention, and then he had less of my attention when he was going back and forth with Lindsay, you know, and just kind of making a mountain out of molehill out of the murky, murky, murky of it all. And then this episode. It was like he shed his armor and he got real. Yes. Nothing about that felt produced at all.

Unknown (4:19): Good way to put it, and I don't think it was produced at all. Those tears cannot be produced from a man that's not an actor. He hasn't seen his son in twenty five years. Those are real tears between Kenny and his father. Yeah.

Unknown (4:37): Yeah. It is beautiful the way this show had so many life moments. One person's getting married, then two people trying to have kids. Now he and Kenny beautifully saw his father towards, you know, the older part of his life. And that's so important.

Unknown (4:57): He said, ever since my mom passed away, it's so important to me to see my dad. And I get

Unknown (5:05): That made so much sense to me that I don't have somebody I can call and just bounce off of and help me make her absence in my life make sense. So it a wonderful moment. Shout out to you, Whitney, for standing by your man and helping nudge that along. It really amplified how important parent acknowledgment is in our life. And I like how Kenny said, maybe I can start to confront.

Unknown (5:31): I can't remember exactly how he said it, but he said it so richly that maybe he could basically confront some of the ways that he engages his friends and he engages with Whitney now that his dad is in his life. So he already knew that this was a missing link in his life and probably has so much to do with how he shows up you know, with his friends and in his relationships and the commitment phobia.

Unknown (5:53): Exactly that. And then he said his abandonment issues. I believe I'm 90% sure it was abandonment issues. Because I remember being so taken aback, like, He has abandonment issues? You would never think because he comes off so strong and hard and, you know, like macho, so I would never think that.

Unknown (6:16): Yeah. And a lot of times, as we know, that's an ex, that's a, that is a facade or a persona that somebody has to adopt to show that they are strong. Nobody ever kind of comes and abandons them again. So I'm sure it has something to do with that, but you know, notwithstanding abandonment issues in itself, oh my God, it plays so much into how you move with people, how you move in relationships, the degree to which you want to commit. So I hope from this that we see a better Kenny.

Unknown (6:42): I can't wait to see how he evolves. And I'm wondering if his dad is going to be threaded in the storyline.

Unknown (6:50): I really hope the relationship continues, whether it's on or off camera. Yeah. I, I really want Kenny to be with his dad, you know? Yeah. Maybe they could, maybe he could pay to have them come out.

Unknown (7:05): Like he said, his dad said, yeah. So I hope that happens.

Unknown (7:11): I hope it does too. I hope it does too.

Unknown (7:15): I would love to see it on the show. I wanna see how he interacts with Whitney, the dad, the mother-in-law now. So it's adorable. It's cute. I went from not liking Kenny to, like, rooting for him now and wanting Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (7:31): To

Unknown (7:32): I mean, I definitely root for anybody who is searching for themselves and trying to heal themselves. I'm also rooting for girlfriends. And I gotta tell you, nothing made me more happier seeing Lindsay and Georgina and Yvonne in the store talking about how to make a baby. And it just really brought back memories of how important girlfriends are and how when you have a really amazing core group of friends, can talk about anything. Even if you're standing in the middle of the store, you're talking about you're talking about it all.

Unknown Speaker (8:08): Talking about it all. I loved it.

Unknown (8:12): You're right. I really love that moment. It was beautiful. I also really loved Yvonne's wedding moment. It's cute that they got married in Mexico and they had the formal wedding, But just having that small city hall ceremony, there's That's something so sexy.

Unknown (8:30): Isn't it? I I almost kinda wish instead of Vegas I did that because now I look at those cute little flare white dresses and I'm like, that's a cute city hall dress.

Unknown (8:42): You know, I know. And wanted to do a city hall wedding, but you know, was really important for my dad to be involved since that was such a of a swan song of him and planning the whole wedding. But I tell you, and it was a wonderful wedding, but I tell you there's nothing better than a city hall wedding and there's nothing better than just, oh, there's nothing better than a destination wedding. I mean, however you wanna get married is fine, but city hall weddings take the cake for me.

Unknown (9:09): That was my first one was city hall. Yeah.

Unknown (9:12): I'm not mad at it. I'm actually not mad at

Unknown Speaker (9:15): it. I was like, I had black pants on, a white tank top, girl.

Unknown Speaker (9:18): Oh my.

Unknown (9:20): Oh, but so one also kind of beautiful yet kind of sad aspect of it. It's bittersweet, right? I'm so glad I got to see Amanda, that we got to see her father and their interactions are so adorable and cute. And you could tell he really loves his daughter. You seem like you don't feel that way, but I love the dad and Amanda because I feel like she's a daddy's girl, you know?

Unknown (9:48): But it could also allow for the unhealthy behavior because Amanda moved out. So now she's fully on her own.

Unknown (9:57): Listen. Notwithstanding Amanda's dad is very attractive, but

Unknown Speaker (10:03): He is.

Unknown (10:04): Very hot. And she does look like him. It's kind of funny. They they they you can see she favors him, but I'm gonna digress.

Unknown Speaker (10:13): She does.

Unknown (10:14): I am quintessentially a daddy's girl, period, unapologetically. And you have to respect that relationship. What I saw, and I had to remind myself that the dad doesn't know about Wes at this point.

Unknown Speaker (10:30): Right.

Unknown (10:31): I had to remind myself this. Amanda, you're good, honey. You are so good. You are so good. You are like a Picasso of gaslighting.

Unknown (10:42): She manipulated a narrative that continually disenfranchises Kyle's and pushes him on on on Bill and Island, like continually making him, shall I say as David Yontov likes to say, the villain in her story.

Unknown Speaker (11:06): The villain in

Unknown (11:07): her And she does that so well because she knows whatever she says to that father who, and I agree, when a father loves a daughter, it's a beautiful thing. But when a daughter exploits that to manipulate, to gain sympathy, not cool. Listen, I'm not going to even be apologetic about this. Of course, I watched half of it earlier, and then I had to jump in the car. So of course, I had it playing in my car.

Unknown (11:35): And I cannot tell you how I was seething and how she was manipulating this man.

Unknown Speaker (11:41): She was. I know it

Unknown (11:44): is making her victim because yeah, and then there you have it folks. There we saw the spoilt little entitled little Amanda who gets everything she wants and and has always been, you know, placated without taking accountability for her part. And honestly, I'm tired of it. I'm tired of you, Amanda. I'm tired of you.

Unknown (12:04): I'm tired of you. I'm tired of you.

Unknown Speaker (12:06): Who isn't tired of Amanda Patura?

Unknown Speaker (12:08): Tired of

Unknown Speaker (12:08): you. Right?

Unknown Speaker (12:10): Mean How do

Unknown Speaker (12:11): you men, Elle? Because she is just a lot. She's a lot. And

Unknown (12:17): so yes, you're right. It is a lovely and cute relationship, but it wasn't today. Not what I

Unknown (12:24): was watching She gaslights her dad and manipulates her dad because she's like, oh, you know, Kyle's already calling me to come pick up the rest of my No, he's not, Amanda. You are just lying to your father to make Kyle look bad. Because then his dad's like, Ugh, just tell him to No wait, way, she's will smart.

Unknown Speaker (12:45): The girl was good. I had to

Unknown Speaker (12:46): give her credit.

Unknown (12:48): I'm like, She's good. She's knew real exactly how to gain parental and paternal support, fatherly support of her bullshit that he willingly cosigns because that's his daughter. Yep. Because she knows that he's not a fan of Kyle.

Unknown (13:06): She definitely has him wrapped around her little finger.

Unknown Speaker (13:10): And spun a narrative where she always looks like she's like, I don't know. He just stays out all night on all of the things of blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. And now, Amanda, you're playing your daddy stupid because just had him on national TV supporting you. At this point, he doesn't know anything about Wes, who you're probably having a relationship with at the very time of this filming. You think your dad liked that?

Unknown (13:36): I hope that your father had something to say about that. You played him stupid.

Unknown Speaker (13:39): I hope your father isn't affected at work because of your behavior. That's what I'm because I look to He's a CFO. I'm not gonna say where, but he is a CFO. Oh. And this is that's not cool, Amanda.

Unknown Speaker (13:52): No. Not cool at all.

Unknown Speaker (13:53): Not cool.

Unknown (13:54): Since we're talking about the Amanda of it all, you know, how did you feel about how she talks to Kyle? Not only how she talks to Kyle and how she continually let me back up. Let me back up. Let me back up because it's so much.

Unknown Speaker (14:15): It is.

Unknown (14:16): How do you feel about a couple of things? How do you feel about how Amanda is continually putting forth this false narrative, this false hope, like I'm just getting the apartment because I think this is really going to work for us so we can get back together. And then at the same time, she's talking to her dad, talking about how much Kyle goes out. And now she's saying, well, I'm gonna start going out, but I'm gonna start going out by myself, but you never go out. Girl, she was already with Wes at that point with his friends.

Unknown (14:52): Yes. She was. And and did you notice how the dad was like, and then you tell Kyle, okay, let's grow. And she's like, no, it's going to be without Kyle.

Unknown Speaker (15:01): Well, how are you getting your marriage back together, Amanda?

Unknown Speaker (15:03): Exactly. You basically just got separated. That's what you just did. So just call it what it is, honey. Separation.

Unknown (15:11): People are separating right now this very second. You know what? Stand up women who have less resources than you are saying, you know what? I'm out no more. I'm starting over.

Unknown (15:18): Goodbye. And they're being honest about it.

Unknown Speaker (15:20): What's changed?

Unknown Speaker (15:21): So how do you feel about that? It's just like, is is it not painful to watch the lies?

Unknown (15:29): It's so painful, and it's been painful to me the way she speaks to Kyle. And I get it. Kyle cursed her. He cursed at her. But the way she speaks to him, like what Kyle?

Unknown (15:43): I don't know. Like, what do you want? Like, it's just so hurtful. Don't even, there's a lack of respect. There's lack of boundaries.

Unknown (15:53): You don't even respect your husband enough to clean your house. I'm obsessed about cleaning my house. I mean, this one knows that I like. I mean, you know, there's times when it's like a hot mess for sure, but I feel bad when it's a hot mess. I feel like I've disrespected it.

Unknown (16:12): I'm sorry the house is so dirty. I want this to be a safe space to land and it's not a safe space to land if my clothes are everywhere. Did you see that room?

Unknown Speaker (16:22): He said it was two years. Two years. He said she was gonna move her clothes and she never moved her clothes.

Unknown (16:29): Two years when I saw the pile of clothes that she had. Wow. I suddenly felt better about the mini pile of clothes I had in my closet.

Unknown (16:39): Should tell my husband, like, you see that? That's a real pile of clothes.

Unknown Speaker (16:44): That was And this little

Unknown (16:45): shorter chair I got, that ain't ish compared to what Amanda has.

Unknown (16:49): That was insane. And then to continually blame Kyle for Kyle's concern and need for a clean house is weird. You know what my mom told me? She said that how you keep your house, like sometimes, and I know that this is true. Sometimes like that level of disorderliness is a manifestation of how your mind is working right now in the very moment.

Unknown Speaker (17:13): That's right.

Unknown (17:15): I know when there have been times when I've been down or overwhelmed or, dare I say, a little bit depressed, I know that the extent to which my house is clean or my closet, it really starts with my closet.

Unknown Speaker (17:31): If

Unknown (17:33): that starts getting piled on, I'm like, uh-oh, uh-oh, there's a Houston, we have a problem. Lisa, we have a problem. What's going on in here? What's going on in here? I gotta fix this.

Unknown (17:44): So I could think of is that that is how her mind feels inside. It's cluttered inside just like that room.

Unknown (17:50): It's cluttered and it's hidden and it's shameful. It's like it's in the corner. Nobody sees it, but there's never a day where you wake up and just wanna put one shirt back at a time. Because that's what I tell myself. If I'm tired and I don't feel like putting my clothes away, I'm like, girl, just one shirt at a time.

Unknown (18:13): You got this. Then tomorrow it could be like three shirts and that's what it's like, never did Amanda wanna just start.

Unknown (18:25): Don't There's something in here in her brain. This is audio folks. I'm pointing to my brain. There's something, there's

Unknown (18:31): something up upstairs that's

Unknown (18:32): That's not connecting, and it's something dark. And we're seeing her darkness. She's living her darkness. I mean, let's think about it. Let's think about it.

Unknown (18:45): Okay, keeping in mind we're watching this literally in reverse order and how we've experienced it. We already know how the story is ending. Think about her time on Summerhouse, the last few episodes from the long lingering glances and the hugs and the I love yous. Now we're smash cut into the city and the first thing she says is, I want to get an apartment. I think we need to separate to get back together.

Unknown Speaker (19:07): Yes.

Unknown (19:08): Okay. Think about that. And then I'm only gonna get an apartment for three months or a month. Oh, but I can only find one that's available for a year long lease and I signed it. Okay.

Unknown (19:24): Kyle says, can I have keys? No. I

Unknown (19:28): know. She's like outraged, but she has keys to his apartment.

Unknown (19:35): Okay. Let's continue. Let's keep going. Now we're talking to dad and she's spinning that narrative about how Kyle is a piece of shit, basically. Excuse my language, folks.

Unknown (19:50): And she makes it clear that she's gonna be going out by herself.

Unknown (19:58): And her dad is like, and then good, now the cock could come with you. She said, no.

Unknown (20:04): Now recognizing that we're repeating ourselves.

Unknown Speaker (20:07): Yeah.

Unknown (20:08): Everything, everything, no, no, no, no, it's fine. I'm saying we're repeating ourselves for a reason. Everything about those four variables that we've experienced from episode one of this show is pointing to she had no plans ever to reconcile with Kyle. Absolutely. So my ask is, wouldn't it have been easier, an easier expenditure of energy just to say to him, Kyle, I'm done, we're out of it?

Unknown (20:35): Because we can't keep blaming Kyle. Yeah, Kyle was a terrible husband. He's taught that, but who are you as a wife? We've only seen Kyle's bad edit as it relates to how he We've engaged never seen her bad edit. Honestly, to be honest with you, when you think about it, Kat, think about the beginning of Summerhouse till now.

Unknown (20:54): All the guys have been edited to be kind of douches.

Unknown (20:58): That is true. And if you think about it, were weren't they just a bunch of 30 and some them 20 just messing around? Yeah. The girls hooked up too, but it's always the guys that are looked at.

Unknown (21:13): Yeah. It was always the guys that seemed to be doing the girls wrong. Right? So maybe do you think that it served production well to continually edit Kyle to seem like he was the villain that time here? Yes.

Unknown (21:34): Kyle cheated on Amanda, I think that was it for him and he was always going to get the bad at it. I think you're absolutely right.

Unknown (21:42): But if Amanda, if what we're seeing is Amanda's true character, and I do believe it is because your true character shows up in times of stress. Wanna know who a person is? Martin Luther King said it, see how they show up. See the measure of a man shows up in times of stress and turmoil. He didn't say it just like that, but that's basically what he said.

Unknown (22:00): And the same applies for females too. Right? So if your marriage is in distress and this is how you're showing up in it, this says a lot about your character and her day to day and how she moves. Right? Can we imagine a world where Amanda is probably, and I apologize for those of you guys who know me in different spaces and amount of profanity I'm using today.

Unknown (22:22): But if she mom. Hey, mom. If she hi, mom. If she is showing up like the epitome of an ultimate bitch, can we imagine a girl

Unknown Speaker (22:34): ungrageable, ignorant, spoiled little girl.

Unknown (22:38): Can we imagine that this is how she showed up every day with Kyle?

Unknown (22:42): Oh, yes, we can. Because remember, they worked together. She was the creative director. So if work needs to be done, work needs to be done. I specifically remember the code, C-nineteen of it all, and they weren't getting along at all.

Unknown (23:00): They worked together all the time for the same company, and they were not getting along. They were stuck together all the time, and I think that's a true labor of love. Like, can you really be around the person you're with all day long during the pandemic and not get a divorce?

Unknown (23:22): I mean, certainly gave them time for their relationship to grow. This seems to me that when they were doing, when they were working together for Loverboy at a certain period, it seems that their relationship was thriving. It was, you know, was neat to it was wonderful to see them doing something together. I think that It was. Doing things together as a couple is what is one of the things that you need to keep your your marriage together, just having something a shared investment in a goal or a shared investment in something that you're doing.

Unknown (23:50): But I imagine that the way that we've seen Amanda show up and how she just talks to Kyle and dealing with conflict is how she has been showing up for a while. And, yes, Kyle was a crappy husband, but my god, the way you talk to him, the way she talked to him this last episode, It was so painful to watch that.

Unknown (24:13): It was. And that was a he said $5,000,000 call? Or And she

Unknown (24:20): says, well, congratulations.

Unknown (24:22): Yeah. And she's like, oh, congratulations sarcastically. Sarcastically. He just wants to keep his business, his dream open. And when you love someone, it's not just about you.

Unknown (24:34): It's about their dreams as well.

Unknown (24:39): The fight really the the thanks that she has with Kyle really traces back to his past history of partying and bringing women back to the apartment while Amanda was sleeping, bringing a woman back to the apartment while Amanda was sleeping. But was it a woman? But it sounds like it was a couple that he brought back. It doesn't It sound

Unknown Speaker (24:55): sounds like it was a couple. Right. Yeah.

Unknown (24:57): Okay. And then he admits that he acts out because of the stress at Lover Boy, the stress of Amanda not being dialed into the marriage, the stress possibly of just not having an intimate relationship. How a wife expect a man to stay home if he's not getting his needs met? And I'm not talking about sexually. Talking about how does any spouse expect a spouse to stay around if they're not getting their visceral and cord needs met, which is like, Hey, I see you and I love you and I'm with you.

Unknown (25:26): Well, we know the sexual isn't happening because we've already stated that.

Unknown Speaker (25:31): Yeah.

Unknown (25:32): No, but it's true. How can you stay when your core needs are not being met? Truly.

Unknown Speaker (25:39): Yes.

Unknown Speaker (25:40): Because I don't think you can stay.

Unknown (25:42): No, I mean, no. And yes, Kyle should be a standup guy and say, you know what, this marriage isn't working. And maybe he has done that. I think we've seen him do that on screen. What are we going to do about it?

Unknown (25:51): Let's problem solve it. Instead, we see him lash out and cry. He definitely didn't have the greatest of conflict resolution skills. And then you have Amanda countering, and I did find this interesting. He's saying, I'm stressed out in the marriage.

Unknown (26:07): She's saying, well, stress lives inside the marriage.

Unknown Speaker (26:13): That way.

Unknown Speaker (26:13): Okay. So why aren't you at home dealing with it?

Unknown Speaker (26:15): Right. Did she just give up? Yes. It's called separating. She gave up, girl.

Unknown Speaker (26:25): Like,

Unknown (26:25): doesn't oh want it anymore. Kyle was like a toy that you get at Christmas time and she loved it until she didn't and she wanted something new. So she trades in one party boy for the worst party boy of them all.

Unknown (26:37): For the worst of them all and her best friend's ex, but she doesn't care. Oh, because Amanda meets one the body or Amanda gets.

Unknown (26:45): Yeah. What did you think about the statement where she says, and I just, oh, just and by this point, I'm driving, listening to the show through my car play, that she didn't feel that Kyle was capable of giving her what she needs.

Unknown (27:05): Yeah, that was extremely worrying to me because I was like Kenny like Kenny asked. I love Amanda, but I just want to understand what's keeping you here. That's what he asked Kyle. I felt like that. Like, then why are you here?

Unknown Speaker (27:23): If he's not meeting your core needs, why are you here?

Unknown (27:27): Everything about that last conversation was like, got my apartment, I got my keys, I got my view of the city and we are, and I'm, and this is done, but I don't want to quite say it yet. I want to write it out somewhere because we've got a show to do and I want to get paid. Maybe, I don't know. Everything about that conversation had no there was no effort on her part. At least I didn't hear any effort on her part or any message on her part or anything articulated on her part that suggested, Kyle, I love you and I really wanna work this out and here's how we're gonna do it.

Unknown Speaker (28:01): We haven't heard a plan. We've just heard, I'm not happy and all the things and you go out late and you drink and I'm gonna go get an apartment for myself for a month. No, now it's actually a year. Definitely. You know, everything about that has been, we're done.

Unknown (28:16): So I think it's clear of who Amanda is and Amanda is not a stand up person.

Unknown (28:20): She's not an honest person.

Unknown (28:22): She's not. And I resent how she played her dad in that scene. I resented that so much.

Unknown Speaker (28:27): And he's going to see that. And I really resent that too.

Unknown Speaker (28:31): It's yeah, it's, it's terrible.

Unknown Speaker (28:33): He does so much for his daughter and she just manipulated her own father like that.

Unknown (28:39): Gavin and Kenny.

Unknown (28:42): Ken, this was definitely Kenny's episode. This episode belongs to Kenny because I

Unknown (28:47): enjoyed watching him this episode. I really did.

Unknown (28:49): I did too. I love the good, good things happening like the wedding. The the reunion was my favorite part. I wanted to cry when I saw them. Yeah, it was beautiful.

Unknown Speaker (29:05): But Gavin and Kenny.

Unknown Speaker (29:07): Right.

Unknown Speaker (29:10): Talk to me.

Unknown (29:11): So Gavin seems to resent that Kenny has a girlfriend. Does he not?

Unknown Speaker (29:17): Okay. Thank you, Kat.

Unknown Speaker (29:19): Thank you. We didn't

Unknown Speaker (29:20): talk That's what I got from her too.

Unknown (29:21): See? And that's a we we did not talk about this.

Unknown (29:25): I just needed to know if that's what I was feeling. Is it is it that he resents that Kenny has a girlfriend or he's trying to push a storyline that looks like he resents that Kenny has a girlfriend.

Unknown Speaker (29:38): Is a good one.

Unknown (29:38): Because part of him looked like he was kind of producing a little bit. Right. You know, you know, when don't you know sometimes, I mean,

Unknown Speaker (29:45): don't you feel so funny

Unknown Speaker (29:46): when you're watching like, this feels like you might have produced something.

Unknown (29:49): This is production. Yeah. Like you're trying to be producing.

Unknown (29:53): Yeah. So what is that about?

Unknown (29:56): Is it that he doesn't have a storyline? I wonder. So he has to just make up one.

Unknown (30:02): Perhaps. But if this is a real feeling that he has about Whitney and Kenny and their relationship and saying that she's boring, which is so weird to say that to your best friend while she's sitting there, I might add. It is. Yeah. What is that about?

Unknown (30:20): Do you not want your friend to be happy?

Unknown (30:23): That's the thing. Do you resent him for going and finding happiness without you? Was it always gonna be you two against the world and now he's never hanging out with you anymore? I wonder what it is, honestly.

Unknown (30:41): Yeah. I I don't know, but I didn't love it. I didn't love it. Does Gavin have a a girlfriend?

Unknown (30:47): I was Does he have a dog? Do that because does that does Gavin have a girlfriend? I I don't think he does, but I can't be sure. Because I don't think we've seen one. And you said, does he have a dog?

Unknown (31:03): He needs a dog if he doesn't have a dog. Mean Jacqueline, go find love somewhere else.

Unknown (31:10): This woman is not Amanda. This is kind of heat that you need to be bringing Kyle about Amanda, not little innocent Midwest Whitney who, you know,

Unknown (31:21): LA Whitney. Yeah. She moved across the country midway. Let the poor girl live.

Unknown (31:32): Gavin is a bar owner, but who is he besides that? He's a bar owner. He's good friends with Lindsay. I think they had a little crushy crush. I mean, they had a little kind of a thing going on.

Unknown (31:40): But who is he in this cast? Meaning, like, what is his relevancy?

Unknown Speaker (31:48): I believe to me he's like the funny one, the one that's kind of controversial. What do you think?

Unknown (31:56): Is he supposed to be somebody that stirs up drama?

Unknown (31:59): That's what I'm wondering. That's why it's so kind of controversial because I guess if he doesn't do it, then who will?

Unknown (32:06): I don't know. I Let's see where he goes with that, but he did not hold my attention. I thought that all of that was out of line. I got to say, Kenny showed up and I applaud the way he showed up this episode, especially how he told his friend to step off otherwise. So let's let's see what that otherwise looks like.

Unknown (32:27): You know, another very touching scene was the scene with Danielle and her mom

Unknown Speaker (32:33): and her talking about the

Unknown Speaker (32:35): dilemma of Owen.

Unknown (32:39): You could tell her mom just loves her unconditionally, and she doesn't guilt her. She doesn't make her feel bad. She's like, sweetie, it's gonna be okay. If it's meant to be, it's gonna be. And I feel like we need a mom like that, like nonjudgmental.

Unknown (32:55): We all need that, like just love, like unconditional love.

Unknown (32:59): Yeah. Let's get deeper into this though. Let's talk about Danielle and Owen and that dilemma. Yes, it was wonderful to see her bring her mom into the show. We've never seen her parents.

Unknown (33:13): And first of all, applaud Danielle showing up in her very, and honoring her culture with what she had on. You know, she had that, I don't know what you call it, but it was very Latinx, you know, what she had on. And I love how she just honors and she celebrates her culture. But, And it was also great to see her mother who showed up for her. Danielle hasn't always had the easiest of time finding someone.

Unknown Speaker (33:44): She didn't.

Unknown (33:44): Finding a man. Right? So now she has this man who seems very nice and it's a very controversial relationship, even more controversial because now she's pregnant. Right. You know, I, I really want this for her.

Unknown (34:00): Do I wish that he wasn't married? Because it's always easier to date somebody when they're not going through a divorce. Yes. But this is her lot and she looks extremely happy. Do you think that now that she's in a relationship, she's having a baby, what do you think that will, how do you think that will influence her relationship with Lindsay?

Unknown (34:20): With Lindsay, right? Think it's gonna bring them together. Actually I think hope so too. I think it'll, it'll make Danielle more mature. She'll have something else to focus on.

Unknown (34:34): She won't be so picky towards Lindsay's life.

Unknown Speaker (34:38): Oh yeah.

Unknown (34:39): Even though I really think that's her way of showing like friend love. And I also think their, their kids could play together. It's gonna be fun. I hope. Yeah.

Unknown (34:49): I have to admit the amount of oversight and concern she has for Lindsay's life strikes me weird. I don't know if she's I if Yeah. I don't know if she's that way with her other friends, but it strikes me weird that she is that way. But I've also noticed on this show that she is kind of, you have Lindsay, you have Yvonne, you have Georgina, and you have Lexi. And then Danielle's over here on Danielle Island.

Unknown (35:14): She hasn't quite integrated into the group yet.

Unknown (35:16): Right, and she's beefing with Amanda always.

Unknown Speaker (35:19): Oh, I forgot about Amanda.

Unknown Speaker (35:20): Never. Oh,

Unknown (35:21): I approve that message. I approve all of that.

Unknown (35:24): Yeah, I approved it too, Danielle. I was like, good for you. Get off the bus. Screw her. Yeah, because really Amanda's not a girl's girl, but no, I hear what you're saying.

Unknown (35:35): She definitely did Lindsey dirty, and I agree with Lindsay needing time a lot of time. And those are Lindsay's friends. But Danielle is really good friends with Yvonne apparently. Oh, okay. I'm They like

Unknown Speaker (35:51): did do the double date. That's really

Unknown Speaker (35:53): nice. That was the support.

Unknown Speaker (35:55): Yvonne was starting to get to know her because she said she was always team Lindsey. So she never really kinda

Unknown Speaker (36:00): Right.

Unknown (36:01): Was on Danielle's team. And so now that that's kind of healing, she was trying to bring her into the I hope that this pregnancy, one, it's gonna definitely guarantee her second season, okay?

Unknown Speaker (36:10): Yes, it will, for sure.

Unknown (36:11): The show is about relationships and marriage but and I hope that it brings her into the friend group.

Unknown (36:19): Me too. This it's stuff like this that I want people to be friends forever. Like have your babies together and then I hope your babies become teenagers together. I just love it.

Unknown (36:32): Yeah. I gotta go, but I wanna just end on this funny note. Yep. Two funny things. The milkman and Lindsay, man, they're hot together, but I guess she's taking it slow or is not really into it.

Unknown Speaker (36:43): What wait. What what what did I miss? What did I miss with that? I like them together, her and the milkman.

Unknown (36:48): Yeah. They're taking it slow. I'm not sure why they are, but they, but they are.

Unknown Speaker (36:53): She said she didn't trust him.

Unknown (36:56): Well, let's see. Maybe she's more mature now. Maybe she's moving on past the just sleeping with someone phase.

Unknown Speaker (37:03): Yeah. Back in the day, would have been.

Unknown Speaker (37:05): One and done.

Unknown Speaker (37:07): Drop and roll. You know?

Unknown Speaker (37:10): I love that.

Unknown Speaker (37:12): And then we have Andrea. Oh, I love him.

Unknown Speaker (37:15): Love him.

Unknown Speaker (37:17): And we're literally seeing them, him and Lexi in bed trying to make a baby, like literally not in the act of it, but in the post glow of it all. And then talking about different positions and

Unknown Speaker (37:33): He's like, It hurts. It hurts. I can't anymore, please. I get it, man. It must.

Unknown (37:43): I don't know you only had twelve hours to make a baby. I know. And I learned that today.

Unknown Speaker (37:49): I learned that there's a sexual position called backwards bridge. Wow. Okay.

Unknown Speaker (37:54): Oh, she the upside down.

Unknown Speaker (37:56): Oh, no looks.

Unknown Speaker (37:57): It's a yoga pose. Yes, it's yoga. You're literally just like

Unknown Speaker (38:01): Oh, it's a yoga pose. Oh, okay. Yeah.

Unknown (38:05): Yep. So I don't know how you necessarily sleep with somebody like that, but, like, good for Lindsey because that that's pretty badass.

Unknown Speaker (38:16): I'm not letting my imagination go there, but okay.

Unknown (38:22): Pretty gangster, Lindsay, like It's a hard pose.

Unknown Speaker (38:27): Got the reverse cowgirl going on.

Unknown Speaker (38:30): Easy. I feel like they

Unknown Speaker (38:32): taught us a lot. They taught us a lot in like a mat in a in a segment that was only maybe about

Unknown Speaker (38:36): like three or four minutes. I definitely learned about ovulation that I did not know that before. Oh my gosh. Good to know.

Unknown (38:45): Well, anyways, anyhoo, it's been a time. Next stop is The Valley and also Next Gen, I think. Is that on tonight?

Unknown (38:54): Oh my god. The twenty fourth. Is that is today the twenty fourth?

Unknown Speaker (38:58): That's twenty fourth. Yes. It is on tonight.

Unknown Speaker (38:59): It is on tonight.

Unknown Speaker (39:01): Yeah. So,

Unknown Speaker (39:02): Woo hoo.

Unknown Speaker (39:03): Oh, boy. We gotta add that into our roster.

Unknown Speaker (39:05): But it's so good to be added. It's so It is.

Unknown Speaker (39:09): It's a good show. It's a

Unknown Speaker (39:10): good I love that show.

Unknown (39:13): I do too. And it did very well. It did so much better than Vanderpump in terms of wanting to watch it and watchability. These these kids are layered. They've got textures.

Unknown (39:24): You know what I like about it? They're not children of housewives.

Unknown Speaker (39:28): Yes. Exactly.

Unknown (39:29): Except for except for for Riley and and Gia. Gia and Kim Zolciak, but it's not dominated with, like

Unknown Speaker (39:37): Right.

Unknown (39:38): So you have actual New Yorkers actual New Yorkers who not are transplants, but who who are representing New York in the best possible way. And, yeah, it's it's a good show. I don't mind it at all.

Unknown Speaker (39:51): Oh, good. And listen, I don't care if someone's spoiled. It's just fun to watch. Don't care.

Unknown (39:57): I don't care if they're spoiled, but I do care that they manipulate their spoiledness to create a narrative that is not true. Hey, Amanda. Okay. Good to see you. Gotta go.

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Unknown Speaker (40:13): Bye, Lauren.

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