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Speaker 2 (1:08): Winning hits different here.

Speaker 3 (1:20): Hey, guys. We are back with part two of our recap of the valley. We are diving headlong into Luke and Kristen and all of their relationship drama. But we also talk about what is needed to take this particular franchise to the next level. There's something missing and we're not sure what it is.

Speaker 3 (1:43): Actually we do. Actually we do know exactly who it is and what it is and, we're diving into it. So get into it with us and, we will see you on the other side. Oh, and also before I go, we also get into some more summer house drama. So, you know, no episode is complete without talking about Amanda and West and the Sierra Miller, but also make sure that you sit back and join us and we'll see you on the other side.

Speaker 1 (2:16): So speaking of Luke, because I think a big part of this episode was the Luke and Kristen of it all.

Unknown Speaker (2:24): Yeah.

Speaker 1 (2:24): And I honestly feel for both of them in this situation because a simpler part of my brain would say Luke is a arrogant guy.

Unknown Speaker (2:37): Right.

Speaker 1 (2:37): He's selfish. She's not taking Kristen's needs into consideration. And with one aspect, I do think he could give her a break, which is the three months postpartum of it. However, I think if this was a woman and the woman moved to a different state and then she had to like be the one that was isolated, I do think we would see it differently. So I wanna give Luke the same level of respect that I would give to a woman in this situation.

Speaker 3 (3:10): It's a very interesting thing to watch in real time. It's almost like a case study, if you will, in terms of the impact that postpartum has on many women, and how it really impacts that relationship. You know, you go from being sexy, fun, single to the joys and the honeymoon period of having a baby, because that is the goal. You finally get baby comes here and then you realize, oh boy, smash cut into the reality called over adulting at this point. It's downward to parenting.

Speaker 3 (3:43): We just skip passive. We just head first into parenting. We're not, you know, drunk and solving, doing all the things. We are like smash cut like she was in the earlier Vanderpump rules, which we loved Kristen for that. And we loved her for that.

Speaker 3 (3:57): Yeah. You're not getting slapped by Stasi. You're literally getting slapped in the face with parenthood and the real fears of mommyhood leaving your child, the body positivity of it all and not feeling safe and lovable in your own skin. Like Kristen seems to be having a negative reaction to how she's showing up postpartum and how she feels about her body. And that obviously has an impact on your ability to feel sexual and to respond in a sexual way.

Speaker 3 (4:28): Right. And so I get that. But I also get that again, we're only seeing 20% of 80% of what they filmed and outside of that 80% of the film, we're not even seeing the whole other layers of other issues that they are dealing with. And I feel like their date at the Foxfire, I think it's called the Foxfire Club. I think it's over there off of Van Nuys actually.

Unknown Speaker (4:53): Because I heard- No, I'm like, I- I know it's a pretty cool place to hang out. But anyway, we saw other layers of things that they've been dealing with come out in real time.

Unknown Speaker (5:06): True.

Speaker 3 (5:07): So it's not just the, and I, and that's where I thought, okay, editors may have done Luke kind of dirty a little bit, a little bit dirty.

Unknown Speaker (5:15): Oh,

Speaker 3 (5:18): because maybe they only, for the last couple of the episodes prior, we only saw him talking about becoming intimate. We didn't see or hear about the other issues that he was dealing with. Like, I think the intimacy was just one part of his frustration. Yesterday, we heard him talking about, being isolated from his family and how hard that is for him.

Speaker 1 (5:40): He's 2,000 miles away from them. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (5:43): He's not an LA guy. He took, it took a huge amount of sacrifice for him to decide to move here. If you remember first season, I think it was, he didn't want to move here.

Speaker 1 (5:53): He wasn't even sure if he wanted to move to the Valley, California or California at all because he had a cabin in Colorado. He had a job in Colorado. So I get how he's maybe even a bit emasculated by having to rely. Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (6:11): But I'm also a fan of, I don't feel that when it comes to reconciling long distance relationships, I'm not necessarily a fan of women picking up their lives and moving across the country for their partners to be or their husbands to be, because it's so much harder for us to reestablish ourselves sometimes.

Unknown Speaker (6:32): That's such a good point.

Speaker 3 (6:34): So I see that he has all these other layers that he's dealing with. And we have the fear of Kristen dealing with, I guess, response to an argument, he said, I don't know if I can deal with this. She interpreted like, you're not gonna be you're gonna leave me.

Speaker 1 (6:54): And I would have too. Can I be honest? I would have to. Well, in all transparency, there was literally one time in my entire fifteen year marriage where my husband one time said, I can't take this anymore. And I felt we were getting a divorce.

Speaker 1 (7:14): Yeah. Well- No, I find it so funny now because that was like ten years ago.

Unknown Speaker (7:22): Well, when you think about now I can get that. I totally get that. And that, yeah, that's funny too, by the way.

Unknown Speaker (7:27): Sorry, I make a good I

Speaker 3 (7:29): can see how Kristen would immediately go there.

Unknown Speaker (7:33): Because she's been secure already. You gotta remember that too.

Speaker 3 (7:37): But, but even before the security of Luke, she had a very insecure relationship with, Tom Sandoval. She had an insecure relationship with James Kennedy. He spit on her door for God's sake. She had a very relationship with, Aaron, but no, Aaron, that was Michelle's name. Adam?

Unknown Speaker (7:56): Adam. Was it Adam?

Unknown Speaker (7:58): I think.

Unknown Speaker (8:00): I forgot.

Unknown Speaker (8:01): He had

Unknown Speaker (8:01): to, he had to go, Connor. Connor.

Speaker 1 (8:03): There was a lot of guys before.

Speaker 3 (8:05): Remember Connor? She had a relationship with Connor and that was not stable. So her relationship as we've experienced it and grown up with it since Vanderpump has been a very insecure attached relationship, like where abandonment and betrayal has been top of mind. Finally, to your point, fall into this safe relationship. And he says, I don't know if I can do this.

Speaker 3 (8:24): Your mind completely, her mind probably completely defaulted and went know. Back to all those relationships where guys have not always treated her with the kindness. And that was scary for her, I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (8:37): She's been left before to put it in layman's terms. And I completely get that. Especially if you have been dumped. I don't know what that's like. I've never been.

Unknown Speaker (8:47): Oh. So I'm sorry. No.

Speaker 1 (8:51): I'm just saying, like, if I was Yeah. I think I would be so, like, I don't know the word, insecure, scared. I really felt Kristen in that because she has been left so many times by different men and that's a pattern and she's gotta be thinking like people always leave. Yeah. You know?

Speaker 3 (9:17): Well, and that's kind of where my mind went to. So I was very happy, even though I, even though they left on very hostile terms, I was so glad that they said, and they recognized we're not connecting here. There's something needs, I get, we need a therapist. And I was so happy to hear that now, obviously fast forward, we're obviously doing very well. She's back to body positivity.

Speaker 3 (9:43): She's looking you know, looking amazing, you know, you go girl, and she's smiling and they're happy. So obviously they've worked through that, but at the time of this filming, like these are two people that I think were both scared of failing in the relationship and not knowing how to show up for each other and not knowing to communicate their needs in a real way where each other can hear each other.

Speaker 1 (10:07): That is definitely true because they clearly do not know how to communicate as of this episode. Although I'm sure now they do have the tools. They probably went to couples counseling.

Unknown Speaker (10:19): Oh, I hope so.

Unknown Speaker (10:20): Yeah. She looks amazing.

Speaker 1 (10:23): You know, and I think this is one of those things that when it's your first child, everything is so heightened, right? Like when it's your first baby, you're so stressed. You feel like everything's gonna go wrong, and three months to Luke is probably like a year. I feel like when you're at Danny and Nia's level and you've had so many children, Danny's probably like, three months? I could go six months.

Speaker 1 (10:48): You know what I mean? Like- And

Unknown Speaker (10:49): it might have been longer than three months for all we know.

Speaker 1 (10:51): Well, that I mean, yeah. I only say that because Kaya is three months old, but I think when you get to the point where it's multiple children, you kinda don't sweat the small stuff. That's what I hear, at least.

Speaker 3 (11:05): Yeah. It seems to me that Luke, and and dare I say he, and I don't mean this how it's possibly gonna sound, but he has a very empathic kind of feminine side to him, you know, in that he's, he's sensitive. I mean, he's, he's to kind of Lindsay phrase, a little soft, which is not a bad thing. He's just very, he emotes his emotions and that, you know, wears him out of sleep. And I think he's really, really trying, you know, to do the right thing.

Speaker 3 (11:39): He doesn't want to fail, Kristen. He doesn't want to fail as a father. And you know, the psyche of a man is to show up and to be autonomous and to all, and sometimes to, competence and having it under control is always top of mind for them. And if they ever feel too, like you said, emasculated or they're not seen vis- then they worry about where do they fit in this relationship. And I think that that's a real feeling.

Speaker 3 (12:02): But I'm so glad that they possibly went to therapy because they look like they have. They look happy on IG now.

Speaker 1 (12:08): I hope so. I'm sure they did because he seemed so open to it and so did she, you know? And having a child is no small task. You need to go to therapy, it's not a failure. It's just growth.

Speaker 1 (12:24): Therapy is growth.

Unknown Speaker (12:26): They just look like two scared kids.

Speaker 1 (12:28): Yeah. And Luke is younger than Kristen. Let's not forget that either. Was living in Colorado. Met her at a wedding.

Speaker 1 (12:38): He never expected to live in California. So I give him a little slack. Like, you know, he thought he was gonna live in Colorado whole life and be near his family. And now he's kind of just floundering. He doesn't know what to do.

Unknown Speaker (12:51): This is her show. So I think he's just, you know, a little lost right now, but I think he'll be okay. I wonder what part of

Speaker 3 (12:59): Denver he lived in because I know that there's some parts of Denver or I understand there's some parts of Denver that are very like suburban.

Unknown Speaker (13:07): Well, Denver I'm

Unknown Speaker (13:08): sorry. I think Denver. Wonder what part of Toronto he lived in because I understand Denver is very suburban.

Speaker 1 (13:14): It is. So Denver and Burlington are super city suburban. Really? But they're yeah. I've been.

Speaker 1 (13:22): And there are parts of Colorado that are super rural, like where there's no electricity. You literally live off the land. Girl, that's why I don't live there.

Unknown Speaker (13:35): No. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (13:38): I couldn't even last in Denver. I need more of a city. No, but yeah, there's parts of Colorado where people literally ride horses.

Speaker 3 (13:51): That's so funny you should say that because I have been to Colorado. Went with my dad and I remember being a little girl, story time, that nobody cared, but I would tell my story. I don't care. Fast forward, don't listen. I remember we, we went to Denver when I was a kid, we took a road trip.

Speaker 3 (14:05): We're always taking road trips all over the country and, and it was snowing and we were horseback riding and I was horseback riding with him sitting in the front. I think I might've been about five or six. And he was telling me this whole story about how he was a cowboy. He got shot in the chest. And I believed, do you know I believed that for years?

Unknown Speaker (14:22): It was a lie. I believe it just now.

Unknown Speaker (14:31): We told it so I will never forget. Remember it. We were just hopping along in Colorado. The snow was coming down.

Unknown Speaker (14:39): I'm dying. To go to

Unknown Speaker (14:41): this guy. But anyways, so oh, no.

Speaker 1 (14:44): It's it's No. That's hilarious. Okay. Real quick. My husband has been drawn the trust.

Unknown Speaker (14:51): Oh.

Speaker 1 (14:52): Yes. In the In the Doctor. People call it the Doctor.

Unknown Speaker (14:57): Don't mess with my Doctor. He was shot in the Doctor. Yes. The Doctor.

Speaker 1 (15:03): We met, but there's a literal bullet wound right there.

Unknown Speaker (15:06): What hotel was he at?

Speaker 1 (15:08): Oh, he was hanging out with his cousins. He was in no type of place to be there.

Unknown Speaker (15:13): Oh, okay. I love the Doctor. But anyway, I mean, I don't know, Something is missing with this show.

Unknown Speaker (15:21): Something is missing and I don't know what to say. I'm gonna

Speaker 3 (15:25): say this, Steam Janet brings a special kind of Bad Boss energy. And I think I would like to see more scenes with her. I literally got to thinking about this last night before I went to bed. I'm like, I think it might be interesting if we saw La la, Janet, and Lacey as a trifecta of power. And you know what?

Unknown Speaker (15:52): Throw on Michelle. Michelle seems ready to forgive. She just wants to get divorced.

Unknown Speaker (15:55): Exactly. Michelle, be her friend.

Speaker 3 (15:58): I'd like to see those score just like, know, balls to the wall.

Unknown Speaker (16:04): Me too.

Speaker 3 (16:04): I feel like Lacey, Janet and La la are the same kind of, you know, NGAF energy. I think they just, they have that, that energy, that fire, you know what to expect. They're not playing around. I said what I said. Yep.

Unknown Speaker (16:20): You know, but I guess she gets, Janet gets very vulnerable next week. So I'm excited to see what that's about.

Speaker 1 (16:25): And I'm, I'm excited. She's actually on the screening for the first time in like two weeks guys.

Unknown Speaker (16:33): I think though I love La la on this show and I didn't think I was, but I actually really quite enjoy her. Was a big expression for me and the, and the Shih Tzu. And by the way, La la, you weren't better, but,

Unknown Speaker (16:48): she had that.

Speaker 3 (16:50): Yeah. She worked way better always, but, we don't understand how she fits into this cast. There's no history of even conflict with anybody else on this cast. We try to not we, I'm not in production. Tried to manufacture her and Jasmine.

Unknown Speaker (17:07): That

Speaker 3 (17:07): was That was at the point I went to sleep. I'm like, what is this? I don't even know what we're fighting about. And she seemed bored by the conflict too. She's like, oh, okay.

Speaker 3 (17:14): Well, you don't like me. You think I'm too paced. Let me to face myself around and two step out of here. You know, I'm not seeing like any real, with them. I need more.

Speaker 3 (17:25): I'm going to need some more.

Speaker 1 (17:27): And no offense to production at all, but I feel like that's a production issue that they need to build that hype before. And then Jasmine and Lola need to have the conversation. You know? Yeah. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (17:41): Have Jasmine talking about it with somebody else. Have La la talking about it with someone else. Like, do what you do.

Unknown Speaker (17:48): Know what it is, I just literally remembered it.

Unknown Speaker (17:53): Tell me.

Unknown Speaker (17:57): La la is messy boots retired. She's retired her messy boots.

Unknown Speaker (18:03): No.

Speaker 3 (18:04): Janet just writes checks to people who write checks that their mouths can't cash. She's

Unknown Speaker (18:10): Janet not is that girl.

Speaker 3 (18:11): She's not really ringing the messy. Lacey just got there. She's like, look, I'm just all about, Angel Aspen galas and, and, and, following my journey of reconciliation and peace with Michelle.

Unknown Speaker (18:25): Can't blame Lacey.

Speaker 3 (18:26): It's not in messy boots. You know, who's messy.

Unknown Speaker (18:29): Who?

Unknown Speaker (18:31): And I'm not necessarily, I'm very neutral with this one. Sheena.

Speaker 1 (18:39): And don't you wish Sheena was on the show?

Speaker 3 (18:42): Not necessarily. I do. I'm not a big, I'm not a, I'm not sure where I stand with Sheena only because I don't like the, what I'm seeing of Sheena post. I love Sheena Conclusion, Vanderpump Rules one point zero. I'm not liking her book and how she's coming after people.

Speaker 3 (19:00): I just, I don't like that part of her, like the dragging of LVP when LVP shoulders are the ones that you now stand on and your bank account sits on because you would not have had an opportunity if it was not for LBP. Even if you say that she manipulated the situation with you, but you know, and nobody told you to go cheat with a married man, but I digress.

Unknown Speaker (19:21): She said she didn't know he was married girl. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (19:26): Oh, I guess they didn't have Google back then. But

Unknown Speaker (19:29): But did you Google? I don't know. That's a whole other topic.

Unknown Speaker (19:34): But I will say oh, go ahead, darling. Go. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (19:36): Oh, no. No. I was gonna say I wish Sheena was on the show because La la even mentioned Sheena.

Unknown Speaker (19:42): I think, I think we need Sheena on the show. I have a show that people are going to watch. Yeah. To add that bite. It's almost like

Unknown Speaker (19:50): you

Speaker 3 (19:51): just have that bite and she's a messy boots. She knows she's have everybody's location on her phone.

Unknown Speaker (19:56): Yes, she will.

Speaker 3 (19:57): You can also bring in and talk about the fair that Brock had that none of us were privy to.

Unknown Speaker (20:06): Know- That art.

Speaker 3 (20:07): There's so much and La la could, but I, but I can kind of see, like, don't want it to make it the La la Sheena show, but I- Yeah. I feel like there's so much like messiness that she can bring to it that would make the conflict worthy to watch. And right now everybody's just copacetically getting along. I like that too. I love that.

Speaker 1 (20:29): But I don't know if I love the current State Of The Valley right now. I don't hate it. I like State Of The Valley address. But it's turning into a it's just getting so I don't know. It's almost to the point where I don't know the point of it.

Speaker 1 (20:49): I don't know where we're going. I don't know where we've been. Like, what is going what is the, like, plot? Like, what is happening?

Speaker 3 (20:59): I'm thinking, you know, like when I watch a scripted show or a scripted series like Friends and Neighbors, check that out guys, Imperfect Women, check that out. Please, There's always usually a plot twist around episode five.

Speaker 1 (21:21): So you're saying there's a chance.

Speaker 3 (21:23): That's that's unscripted television now unscripted television. I've got to put my thinking cap on. I'm wondering, is it next episode where we're going to really see a shift? We need to see a shift. We need to see maybe Schwartz bring his girlfriend on the show or Schwartz.

Speaker 3 (21:41): Well, no, I don't even know if they're involved in or Schwartz. I don't know. We just need some messy boots and there's not enough messy boots. Everybody has their, their, their Lupatin Hills on right now, but no messy boots.

Speaker 1 (21:54): It seems like nobody wants to get dirty with the, to get into the messy boots, you know? Yeah. Like everybody wants to preserve, like Schwartz wants to be the nice guy. La la's tired of being the villain, but okay. So who is gonna be the villain?

Speaker 1 (22:11): We need some kind of conflict.

Speaker 3 (22:15): I think so. I think that that's what's missing.

Speaker 1 (22:18): And I think in life, when you have a big friend group, there is automatically conflict. That's why a lot of us only have like five friends. Because when you have 25 friends, there's always going to be some trauma. So,

Unknown Speaker (22:33): nobody ever

Unknown Speaker (22:34): sees friends.

Unknown Speaker (22:35): Nobody has 25 friends. I know Ramona thinks she has 98 friends. Like literally you only have-

Unknown Speaker (22:40): Not Ramona. Not Ramona.

Unknown Speaker (22:44): Yeah. Next

Unknown Speaker (22:45): No, no, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (22:46): Definitely not Ramona, but, I think you're lucky if you have two or three, one good friend and maybe two or three other friends that are backups and then the rest associates and acquaintances,

Unknown Speaker (22:58): you

Speaker 3 (22:59): know, and half of them are plotting for your demise. No way you can really have this.

Unknown Speaker (23:03): If you have seven friends, you better cut three of them.

Unknown Speaker (23:06): A thousand percent, 50% rule because smiling faces tell lies. They're calling your job. They wrote a song about it.

Speaker 1 (23:16): Yeah. Sabotaging you.

Speaker 3 (23:19): Thousand percent. I've seen it happen too many years, too many times in these five decades or so that I've been living that, you know,

Speaker 1 (23:28): Four decades, by the way, my birthday is in what city is August.

Unknown Speaker (23:35): It's next week. It's the day four days away. What are we doing for our fortieth birthday? Are we done here? Cause we just moved on to other things.

Unknown Speaker (23:43): Guess so. Yeah, we're done.

Speaker 1 (23:44): So no, I just had to pop in audience. We're going to have like probably a podcast center. I'm assuming we're gonna have Should

Speaker 3 (23:54): we go live and talk about milestones, that 40 milestone?

Speaker 1 (23:58): You know what? Yes. And we should ask 40 year olds to come on and share.

Speaker 3 (24:03): Yeah. Let me tell you, you guys need to stop being upset about these birthdays.

Unknown Speaker (24:09): I'm so excited.

Speaker 3 (24:11): You know, literally, I mean not to, yeah, you it's so much better to be above ground and living your best life. You're about to live your best life at 40. I think 50 was phenomenal for me. 55 has been phenomenal for me. The only year that wasn't phenomenal was 56, but you know, that had life happening at 56.

Unknown Speaker (24:30): So, but, yeah, I, I just think it gets better and you know what the

Unknown Speaker (24:36): best part about it is?

Speaker 3 (24:37): You don't care about nothing. Just live your best life unapologetically.

Speaker 1 (24:49): I feel like I've already Kristen's gone in 40. So if Kristen wants to call in, Danny, if you want to call in.

Unknown Speaker (25:00): Nipples not required.

Speaker 1 (25:02): Nipples not required. Shirts are not not required.

Unknown Speaker (25:07): Carnage of my

Unknown Speaker (25:08): emotions seeing that, know what to think.

Unknown Speaker (25:12): I think my I think my emotions are sticking on the floor.

Speaker 1 (25:16): I bet every day La la watches this. She's like, thank goodness I had a baby through surrogacy or IVF.

Unknown Speaker (25:29): Oh no, it's a good thing that he did for his wife. We're just, we're just joking with you.

Unknown Speaker (25:32): We're joking. We love you. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:37): I gotta tell you something. I know the reunion for summer house is coming up.

Unknown Speaker (25:43): Oh my God. It's actually right I'm

Speaker 3 (25:45): done with it all. I'm done with it all. I, I, I don't, I literally don't care about Amanda and West. You know, I know people do, so we'll talk about it, but I just don't care. I just don't care.

Speaker 3 (25:59): Just don't care. Whatever you guys gotta do and whatever karma you're invested in right now, go in that direction and let us know how it turns out. This has just become a circus and it's onto other things, you know, but it is going to be interesting, the reunion. What are you looking forward to?

Unknown Speaker (26:18): Sierra's dress first and foremost. That is my main, oh my God. Sierra, I'm looking for Come on

Unknown Speaker (26:25): her bench

Speaker 1 (26:26): dress. Oh, Sierra, like her her dress, her hair, her however Sierra wants to act is how I'm gonna ride with.

Unknown Speaker (26:36): Sarah could come in there with some Levi's Jenna Lyon style. I would not be mad at and I was never mad at Jenna's outfit that on the movie.

Unknown Speaker (26:41): Me neither. She looked grainy.

Speaker 3 (26:43): I know people had issues with it, but,

Unknown Speaker (26:46): I like different.

Speaker 3 (26:47): The reunion look is going to be fire. I'm sure Ariana's in her DMs and on the phone and they're down Robertson Boulevard or shopping somewhere couture.

Unknown Speaker (26:55): I hope so.

Speaker 3 (26:55): Trying to find like just the right, like drop the mic kind of a fit. I'm excited about that. I wanna see though, what I'm invested in is not so much Amanda and Wes. I think that they're tired and I think that their ship has sailed in terms of my interest in them, but I am interested in what the cast and how the cast is going to hold them accountable. I'd love to see Paige calling in.

Unknown Speaker (27:20): I'd love to see.

Unknown Speaker (27:21): Me too.

Unknown Speaker (27:22): That would be dumb.

Speaker 1 (27:22): Oh my God. I wish they could do that.

Unknown Speaker (27:25): Girl, you know, Paige would be like, wish she had it. Hannah, where you at? Where you at Hannah?

Speaker 1 (27:32): Bring it up Paige. To the front, please. I hope, Lindsey picks up Paige's like R and goes in on West at least, and Amanda, because Amanda was always mean to Lindsey. So don't think we don't remember that girl.

Unknown Speaker (27:51): You know what I've come to realize? I feel like, I feel like Amanda in her person just really struggles with good self worth.

Unknown Speaker (28:06): Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:07): And yes. And when you have, and this is why ladies and you young ladies are like, listen to me. Okay. You've gotta be very, very, very, very careful to analyze the level of agency and self worth of your friend group. If there is anybody in your friend group that is struggling with extremely low self worth, do not take that on and try to help build them up.

Unknown Speaker (28:41): Okay. Yeah. Give them a card, let them know you're noticing some things. And then you need to be on the watch because any woman, it is very difficult. Have found, and I could be wrong, correct me if I'm wrong, but my mom says I'm not.

Unknown Speaker (28:57): She taught me this.

Unknown Speaker (28:58): I'm nodding. Yes.

Speaker 3 (28:59): Any woman that has really low self worth is not qualified to be friends with somebody of high self worth. They will see that and they will somehow try to sabotage that. They will. So I'm thinking about Sierra who, you know, has made her mistakes, but that her self worth is in the recovery and is in the resiliency. And is that like, I'm on, I'm on notice not doing that again.

Speaker 3 (29:24): Yeah. Check clock that moving and elevating as far as possible. And so you have a woman with really high self worth and you have Amanda whose self worth, who I probably, she was masking it all the time, but now I'm looking at her like different. It was only a matter of time that she was going to sabotage this beautiful woman. Who's beautiful inside and out and sabotage that and try to take some of that, something away from her for herself.

Speaker 3 (29:54): I don't think that this relationship between West and Amanda is about West and Amanda. I think West has actually left the building in the relationship personally, for me, I have a feeling he in spite of left the building. This relationship is about getting back at Sierra. That's what this relationship is about.

Speaker 1 (30:10): For being so strong and loving herself.

Speaker 3 (30:14): Wes getting about back at, Sierra for not dating him and giving him a chance. And you know what? Your arms are too short to, to, to hold her up anyway. You should have never even tried to like solicit an apology from her because you weren't going even be able to hold her up anyway. Your arms are too short

Unknown Speaker (30:35): and That's a good point.

Speaker 3 (30:38): And his hands are small. That's what occurred to me. Now let's go down the line. Amanda had issues with Lindsay. What Lindsay got?

Unknown Speaker (30:47): Be strong and tell men what she wants and leave them when she, when they don't give it

Unknown Speaker (30:52): to her. High, which is indicative of high self worth. Right.

Speaker 1 (30:55): And Amanda was with Kyle who wasn't giving her what she wanted, but stayed anyway.

Speaker 3 (31:01): Yeah. I think there's a relationship between self worth and somewhere in her feeling like she doesn't have what it takes to deserve it, but you got it. And you don't deserve it either. So I'm gonna take it from you. This relationship is about, a, is a clap back on Sierra and Sierra's like, oh yeah, you keep doing that.

Unknown Speaker (31:17): And I'm gonna wait for these applause over here on dancing with the stars. And, me and Bart Davies are gonna go do our thing and you go over there. Yeah. Unbothered. Unaffected.

Unknown Speaker (31:26): Congratulations, Sierra.

Speaker 1 (31:28): Apologize. Dancing with the stars.

Unknown Speaker (31:31): That's where I am with Summerhouse. I don't know about you, but that's where I'm at with it, but I'm excited to

Speaker 1 (31:34): see No. Same. Amanda reminds me of all the girls that when I was just minding my own business in life, looking amazing, having a good time, would just say something crazy out of nowhere. Right. Just to like try to put me down.

Speaker 1 (31:52): I'd be like, okay. And just move on and not care. So there are those people out there ladies and be careful.

Speaker 3 (32:03): Be very aware that goes for men. You don't want to date men of low self worth. Oh, hi Wes. Yes.

Unknown Speaker (32:11): Hello. And you

Speaker 3 (32:12): have this high self worth woman named Sierra dating this low self worth, small arms, short hands, like no shower taking. The no shower for me.

Unknown Speaker (32:26): No hair washing.

Unknown Speaker (32:28): It's not okay.

Speaker 1 (32:32): It doesn't look good. And when I say good, I mean clean. It doesn't look clean. We're excited to watch the reunion nonetheless because I need to see Lindsay go in. I need to see what Amanda and Wes have to say for themselves.

Unknown Speaker (32:55): Like

Unknown Speaker (32:55): Nothing. Nothing. I'm just I

Unknown Speaker (32:57): need to see what Andy asks too.

Speaker 3 (33:01): Oh, well, you know, Andy's an attorney, so he's gonna be ratatatat with questions.

Speaker 1 (33:08): He better go in. He better go. So in on them.

Speaker 3 (33:11): I wanna see how Kyle recovers from this on the show. Wanna see his union. I wanna see Lindsay. I wanna see Lindsay take them to task. I wanna see if that cast, who on that cast is going to co sign their BS and who on that cast is not, and will they collectively hold them accountable?

Unknown Speaker (33:35): I hope so.

Unknown Speaker (33:37): That's what I'm after. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm after. And Chloe, Chloe's weighing in Chloe's weighing in.

Unknown Speaker (33:47): She wants to say what you got to say. Hi Chloe. Is, she is, she is, she's tired of it too.

Unknown Speaker (33:57): When she heard Amanda and West, she said, I can't anymore.

Unknown Speaker (34:04): Anyway, well, the time has been had

Unknown Speaker (34:08): and next stop has time

Unknown Speaker (34:11): and next stop, you know, what's coming up next. It's already on in your area.

Unknown Speaker (34:15): Beverly Hills.

Unknown Speaker (34:16): I won't be able

Unknown Speaker (34:18): to watch until the morning because I don't get it until the morning and I refuse to watch Bravo commercials. No, no, no Beverly Hills for us tonight. I want to wake up in the morning.

Unknown Speaker (34:26): Drink your coffee and watch it. It's fun. I Yeah. Have

Unknown Speaker (34:28): to wake up and watch it around, five.

Speaker 1 (34:33): I love doing it before work because it sets my work mood. I get happier.

Speaker 3 (34:37): Yeah. Yeah. And we'll be going right into a recording of it.

Unknown Speaker (34:42): So we

Speaker 3 (34:43): I will not be watching tonight. But it's going to be interesting.

Speaker 1 (34:48): Oh. And from what we saw, Doreed is going to hold her own. So I'm excited about that.

Speaker 3 (34:53): Yeah. But you know what? And Doreet's, I mean, and, and I need Doreet and Erica to make up.

Unknown Speaker (34:59): Me too.

Speaker 3 (35:00): I'm not invested in Kyle and her making up because I think that ship has sailed. But, but I, I want Erica and Dorit to make up, but I don't know if there's any recovery from that because you basically kicked her to the curb. And now we know what Kathy meant before the season aired. And she referenced that Dorit likes to go towards shiny new things, which are friends.

Unknown Speaker (35:24): Oh my God. I didn't even think of that.

Speaker 3 (35:28): So Bo's and Rachel enter the chat and she's kind of gone in that direction and that's great. Those are great friends, but man, Erica's girl, you're doing Erica dirty and I, Doreen, I like you.

Unknown Speaker (35:42): Yeah. It's hard when you I

Speaker 3 (35:43): rarely say that everybody knows. I don't really say that, but I get your struggle. You know, I, I feel you on this divorce in there, you know, I feel you on Kyle's frustration, but you doing your girl, Erica, real dirty. Oh, like you need to fix that. It may not ever be friends again, because I think she is so hurt and you know how hurt, you know, how we're going know she's hurt.

Speaker 3 (36:11): If she gets into evisceration mode, that's how, you know, she's hurt.

Unknown Speaker (36:14): I know. Oh my God.

Speaker 3 (36:16): And there's nobody there to save you.

Unknown Speaker (36:19): Oh.

Speaker 3 (36:20): You know? And I think she's a little afraid of getting kicked off the show because she says that she's at a Santa reunion that it's been known that people are afraid to speak up to you, Kyle, because you'll get them gone more or less.

Speaker 1 (36:33): She does see that. I'm so glad she says that though.

Unknown Speaker (36:37): Yeah. But maybe it's okay if Doreen is not on the show. Maybe, maybe she can go and do, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. Can go do other things.

Speaker 1 (36:46): Yeah, that's true. She could be a brand ambassador, a clothing designer. Yeah. But I do think Kyle should think about maybe stepping away. It's been a really long time.

Speaker 3 (37:01): I think the show needs a fresh injection of energy and it's almost like in a corporate situation when you've had one president at the helm for too long and the company has done well under that leadership, but then you bring in this new energy and you build and scaffold on top of whatever that company's done and they bring it into a fresh new direction and just really like takes off. Feel like that a, as a, as a franchise, as a brand, like they need a new injection of energy. I'm more than confident that there's some bad asses rolling around in Rodeo, you know, at the honor bar, at the poll lounge, just waiting, like who would be, who would be primed for the challenge or leave her on there and bring in a baddie.

Speaker 1 (37:47): Maybe Kathy's friends could come in, you know, do their big one.

Unknown Speaker (37:53): Yeah. Maybe. I don't know. Right. Gotta eat something.

Unknown Speaker (37:59): Yeah. This was fun, Benny. I'll see you tomorrow for Beverly Hills.

Speaker 3 (38:04): See you tomorrow. And you guys know where to find us. The goodeditunfiltered.com. That's where we are. Everything is there.

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Unknown Speaker (38:31): Yeah. Exactly. Alright. See you. Bye.

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