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Unknown Speaker (1:54): Hey, y'all. We are back with part two of our real housewives of Beverly Hills recap, and we are getting into it. And, ultimately, what we wanna answer is how does this show continue to thrive? Does Kyle need to stay? Does Kyle need to go?

Speaker 1 (2:10): We're even talking about summer house because, you know, there's not a time when we're on the mic where we cannot not talk about the summer house drama, the Kyle, the Amanda, the Sierra Miller, the west of it all. We're trying to understand it. And we also are giving our, predictions and our hopes for that reunion recap. So dial in, sit back, enjoy the ride, and we'll see you on the other side. Moving on.

Speaker 1 (2:40): I have a question. I need a honest answer.

Unknown Speaker (2:44): Okay.

Speaker 1 (2:44): Can we honestly compare Amanda Francis hashtag money Mandy manifestation queen. Can we honestly compare her entrance into this cast of Camille Grammer? When Andy said that, I had to like, what? These two are not in the same stratosphere at all.

Unknown Speaker (3:09): Not at all. It

Speaker 6 (3:12): feels like maybe they're both annoying and the fans don't love them. Like, maybe that's a possible, like, thing they have in common. But other than that.

Speaker 4 (3:20): I mean, he meant polarizing. I think that's what he was getting at. But you're right, Elle. I mean, Camille was ready to say whatever she needed to say to people and ready to take people down while Amanda is so not like that.

Unknown Speaker (3:35): Yeah. No. I think Amanda I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (3:39): No. She's not. And I think Camille Grammer was iconic. When I started Beverly Hills and I saw Camille Grammer, she was the reason why I wanted to keep watching the show. Camille Grammer was a villain.

Speaker 5 (3:52): Amanda doesn't recognize that she's a villain. Like, she is polarizing, but, like, unintentionally. She really doesn't mean to be. She's actually, like, really looking for understanding and not even understanding, like, why she's not connecting with these women. That's like a different feel.

Speaker 5 (4:10): If I felt like Amanda was gonna be a villain and, like, ruffle feathers on purpose a little bit, call things out on purpose, then I I think Andy was spot on, but she's not going to do that. I actually don't even think she's gonna come back. Like so no.

Speaker 6 (4:23): No. I I think you're ready. She she, like I was thinking about it when they showed the clip packages with her trying to explain things. I don't think she's intentionally polarizing. I think she's simple, and I think that she doesn't know how to communicate.

Speaker 6 (4:37): And a lot of what she's saying comes off as way meaner than what she's trying to say. Like, even the thing where she was talking about how she's always recognized in rooms, when I listened to it again, I was like, oh, she's saying she's not used to being around people who she doesn't know already. Okay. So she has social anxiety, but she just made it sound like she expects everyone to think that she's like Lady Gaga.

Unknown Speaker (4:59): Say.

Speaker 6 (5:00): Beyond Like, I don't understand. Like, this is not the stat you can't be that dumb about your words on this cast because they are very, very specific about their subtle fighting. So they'll pick anything apart. This is like, this is she should be on New Jersey. She she can hang out with Teresa and they can fight that way.

Speaker 1 (5:20): You know, there's when I saw her on this couch and she looked lovely, by the way. Mandy did that. I loved all of that. But she came off very infantile compared to the rest of the women on the cast. She came off like a child.

Speaker 1 (5:40): There's so many reasons, and I don't know if you feel me on this, but I feel that there's so many reasons why she is not good for the show, why she's not really gelling. And one, her money branding. It clashes with the cast, many of whom are old money or self made themselves. And none of these women have really they've shown their wealth and they've made comments about their wealth, but they don't really lead with the wealth hashtag. This is what Erica was trying to tell her.

Speaker 1 (6:05): Yeah. They infer it because it's inherited or it's been recognizable already because they're already a brand within like the LA ecosystem or the space. Her whole vocabulary just alienates people as well. You come on the show, you're saying that you're the money queen, that you're rich AF, you know, the manifestation, her whole spousal dynamic that she has with her husband, her now husband, who, by the way, got married, I think, did she get married?

Unknown Speaker (6:33): October 10.

Unknown Speaker (6:34): Scratch, scratch that, scratch that.

Unknown Speaker (6:35): October 10?

Unknown Speaker (6:36): No, I was

Unknown Speaker (6:36): gonna say something and I have no proof of that, so let me shut up. But, and then she's just inconsistent. She's performatively Beverly Hills when she said, well, I thought the show was about you know, I thought this I was with women with wealth and, you know, was supposed to talk about my designer things. Did you watch the show? Like, did you know that she did homework before you came on the show?

Unknown Speaker (6:59): Yeah, I don't think so either, Charles. I don't think she watched She

Speaker 5 (7:02): said that on Carlos King interview, that she never watched the show. And a lot of women say that, but I actually believe her. She's telling the truth.

Unknown Speaker (7:10): Why didn't watch the

Unknown Speaker (7:12): didn't even watch the trailer.

Speaker 1 (7:13): She's not even like highly invested to even watch the show to figure out what her positioning is going to be.

Speaker 5 (7:19): But I kind of like that, though. I wasn't mad about the fact that she didn't watch the show. Because sometimes when women watch these shows and they study it too hard, they come on overproduced, and it it is it's, like, bad in a different way. But let me ask y'all this. If Amanda I like her being new money.

Speaker 5 (7:35): I like the juxtaposition between new money and old money kind of going at it. So if she was the money queen and I'm gonna like wake it up in a different way, right, like I'm gonna be like flashy with my money and I'm gonna make you women not feel uncomfortable with that and I don't care and if she was unapologetic about it, It really accepted the villain role. And you know what I mean? And when ruffled feathers intentionally, would that not be so interesting to watch? Absolutely.

Speaker 6 (8:04): So much better. That would be so much better. And it's not even like it would make her as hated as she is now. Because for a while, Garcelle was like, oh, none of these women wanna, like, do the dirty work. This is the whole point of the show, so I'll stir it up a little bit.

Speaker 6 (8:16): Yes. And we loved her for it. So, like, for this one to just be polarizing and not make anything good happen, it's like, then what are we here for?

Speaker 5 (8:24): You can't be polarizing and not like conflict.

Unknown Speaker (8:28): That's where

Unknown Speaker (8:28): I lose Amira.

Speaker 6 (8:29): Right. Right. And now we have two. We have her and and Zoe.

Speaker 1 (8:33): And so much of her the space that she took up was so much slanted in her credentials. Mhmm. And this is why Erica was and Rachel as well, I believe possibly got frustrated during the reunion because Erica was saying you're with this new money wealth all the time. We don't know you. Like, where is your vulnerability?

Speaker 1 (8:56): So she did what you said, Chelsea, really walked into that villain road, she kind of balanced it with some vulnerability. That would have made sense. And you know who did that well? Was Lisa Rinna. Lisa Rinna came to Sutton's neck that season, whatever, whatever, whatever.

Speaker 1 (9:08): But then she had a moment where she cried and says, you know what? I'm so messed up because I lost my mom. You know? Right.

Unknown Speaker (9:14): And so then for

Speaker 1 (9:15): a minute, you felt sorry for her, then you were back to Right, her And I wonder, does, I wonder, do we, as people who watch the show, we kind of want that back and forth tension. We don't want you to just to stay in one lane. We wanna see human arc.

Speaker 5 (9:30): Yeah. We don't want you to be a walking infomercial for your Right. And not be and not even understand that that's what you are.

Speaker 6 (9:41): Right. Like, it's not even, like she wasn't even able to be like, well, this manifesting thing that I'm making my whole career about, maybe I could teach Doreet how to manifest, like, being a better friend or keeping things at the front of your mind so she can't remember any of this stuff. She's just like she's like Elle Woods from, Lee Lee Blanche. She's like comes in and is like, I like pink. And if I think hard enough about money, it's here.

Unknown Speaker (10:05): It's like, alright. I don't

Speaker 5 (10:07): But she also never chimed in. And this is my problem with Amanda. It's my problem with Rachel, though, too. It's like, if she wasn't selling herself and it literally didn't sound like a commercial for one of her products, she was mute. She didn't chime in on anything else like your to your point of like, could you have, like, taken all that you are and all that you do and, like, helped other people in different ways, it's like, no.

Speaker 5 (10:30): Because when conflict arose, she was mute. If it it wasn't like the ladies coming for her Mhmm. Who are who are you again? Like, who are you, by the way? Right.

Speaker 5 (10:40): She was, like, defending herself. She had nothing else to add to the cast.

Speaker 6 (10:45): Right. Like, occasionally, she'd be like, oh, I wrote my own books. And it's like, that's not helpful. We didn't think that no one was watching this show because we think they're literary greats. Alright?

Speaker 6 (10:53): Like, that was not

Speaker 1 (10:54): the thing you need to say. You know, I would have just enjoyed seeing let me back up. It seems to me that the job of a rookie is to not come in leading and teaching. Like, it's it's to fall in and maybe just give us little doses of who you are. Give us a little bit of villain messy boots.

Speaker 1 (11:14): Give us a lot of vulnerability and tell us who you are. And we never got anything from that. If she is manifesting wealth and all good things for people, then then help Erica to your point, Chelsea, figure this stuff out, you know, and just connect with each with these women on an emotional level and maybe some of your money manifestation stuff. But we just got one side of her. Mhmm.

Speaker 1 (11:39): And and the only time she was interesting was in that pink suit at the Studio fifty four party dancing her little butt off. That was cute. I need more of that fun, Amanda.

Speaker 4 (11:50): And I do agree that she could have gotten more involved with their other cast members. She didn't ask anybody about their lives or what was going on with them. It's just all about her.

Speaker 6 (12:02): It's it's a problem on Beverly Hills. I think that they're all very, like, me centric, and it feels like unless one of them is even more egregious about it than they are, they don't notice it. So, like, they can call each other out sometimes, but they can never really see it themselves.

Speaker 1 (12:17): Do you feel that no one really that all of them are a little bit guilty of not fully investing in everybody else's

Speaker 6 (12:24): Yeah. Like, I feel like they're all kind of self absorbed and because they see how little Kyle is willing to put in, they're like, well, I can still put in 50% instead of a 100% and still be giving a lot more. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like that kinda sets the temperature for everyone else and how legitimate they're gonna be.

Speaker 5 (12:43): And and that's because the show has gotten away from real friendships. That's why these women are working together. They're coworkers. And I Right. I don't feel that invested in my coworkers.

Speaker 5 (12:55): You know what I mean? So

Unknown Speaker (12:56): Right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:58): Compared to Rhode Island, which is not doing as great in the in the ratings, but these women are friends and they show up and that camera could be there or not, they still gonna bring it. They're they're bringing That should

Unknown Speaker (13:08): be criminal. That should be criminal, but it's not.

Unknown Speaker (13:10): Glass. That's That's

Speaker 5 (13:15): up Rhode Island. Elle, thank you for bringing up Rhode Island. Because when we were talking about Kyle and the insinuations around, was there an affair? Was there this? Was there that?

Speaker 5 (13:23): Listen, viewers are tapping into Rhode Island, and those women are putting their business on the table. They're putting the work in. They're just telling it like it is. Even when you think about what the Kardashians used to be versus what it is now. Listen, if you're not gonna be upfront and tell us what the story is, we're not as interested anymore because we have too many options.

Speaker 5 (13:46): We could go to Summer House. We could

Unknown Speaker (13:48): go to Rhode Island.

Speaker 5 (13:50): There's too many places we could go where we're going to get real, raw, vulnerable TV. If you're not going to give it, then I think you need to go because it brings down the show. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (14:01): And Beverly Hills never gets that, like, that fear put into them, and I feel like they always really should. I mean, New Jersey, I always really liked, and they they've been, like, hit or miss, we didn't know if they were gonna be around anymore. Why why don't they give that same threat to Beverly Hills so people know to lock in? Because I bet if Kyle was like, oh, my other option is I have to hope for another role in Halloween twenty six, she would be she would be sharing everything.

Speaker 4 (14:29): Right. I think it's they get away with it because it has historically high ratings.

Unknown Speaker (14:35): Mhmm.

Speaker 4 (14:35): So they're just lucky. Honestly, I think they're just lucky that they have good ratings and loyal fans.

Speaker 6 (14:42): Yeah. But this time next year, I'm I would be surprised if Rhode Island isn't, like, taking them over because they don't even seem to notice that they're saying crazy things. They're just, like, hitting people with their cars and moving on.

Speaker 5 (14:54): Because they have real money. Like, they don't need a brand deal. I feel like people reality TV stars become so polished because they want to build something from the show. These women don't need anything. This is about Rhode Island.

Speaker 5 (15:09): So sorry. I know we've taken this completely in different directions. But those women have real money, and they're not looking for anything other than to put on a great TV show. And that is what's so different about Beverly Hills versus Rhode Island.

Speaker 6 (15:20): Which is crazy because Beverly Hills is so rich. Like, you would think that they would be, like, totally willing to be authentic because it's, like, everyone is super rich.

Speaker 1 (15:30): Yeah. I mean, it's and maybe they're just comfortable with the fact that they have been the preferred franchise and number one for so long. I mean, despite the fact that they are still number one, their ratings are comparatively low compared to last season. They're only seasons before rather. They're only like hitting at like 600,000 to 700,000 viewers.

Speaker 1 (15:52): So they still need to put in some work though because it's just not it's it's not it's not giving the way it should. But who was giving though was Bazama and her read to Amanda. Bazama took Amanda to school and I felt like I went to church. She Yes. Had to be like, yes.

Speaker 4 (16:11): She got that off. She really did.

Speaker 1 (16:13): Yes. What do you say? Do you think that Buzama has redeemed herself? Because as it relates to Amanda and her relationship with her, you know, for for a minute, as fans do, they love you till they don't. They felt that she was bullying Amanda.

Speaker 1 (16:29): And I have a lot to say about that, but I'm gonna just rest my case. Do you feel that she redeemed herself in terms of being a bully towards Amanda?

Speaker 6 (16:38): I didn't think she was bullying Amanda. I think it's good that Amanda didn't know me growing up because she wouldn't have been able to handle it. But I think that she she intentionally I saw her had to test take deep breaths and speak so softly and calmly in a way that was driving me insane? Like, I'm sure she redeemed herself, but did she really have to sit here and be like, well, so I have this knowledge base from Harvard. When I just saw the clip of her being like, well, then I thought about money.

Speaker 6 (17:05): I don't really have any of the training, but I thought about it really hard, and I'm great at spiritual stuff. It's like, okay. So I thought she was she was very put together. I just kinda feel bad that she had to be so put together.

Speaker 4 (17:17): Mhmm. Mhmm. Good point. I think she and also in that package that they showed, they did show both saying something about how it doesn't make money, but then she completely clarified it by saying, that's not the purpose of my business. I'm doing this to help.

Speaker 4 (17:37): It's more like she wants other people to understand the knowledge that she received from Harvard.

Unknown Speaker (17:42): Right.

Speaker 5 (17:42): Yeah. Yeah. Was hard on Bose for most of the season, and here's why. Both was so good last season. She disappointed me completely this season.

Speaker 5 (17:57): I'm not gonna lie. She she regained some credibility at the reunion for me. And here's why, she asked Amanda about what she did too many times and she would not let it go and it just felt like picking on low hanging fruit. Amanda doesn't like conflict nor could Amanda ever answer the question well. But at a certain point as viewers, we understood that and we moved on.

Speaker 5 (18:22): Like, we don't know what she does. She's not explaining well. We're just gonna Google the girl. Like, we moved on. So episode after episode where Bose is still like, what do you do?

Speaker 5 (18:33): Explain it to me. Explain it to me like this. Now explain it to me like that. It's like, we don't need any more explanation, Bose. And, also, it's it's okay if you don't understand our business.

Speaker 5 (18:43): Like, I think it was a little bit hard for Amanda to open up and show anything else because the women just kinda couldn't get over this hurdle of, like, your new money, your manifestation, and we don't get what that is. So if you're coming into every reunion or every setting, like all group, all cast settings where that's the questions that you're gonna get peppered with. Mhmm. I don't wanna then like in that conversation and then like tell you something about my kids. I'm kind of already on the defense, and I'm on the defense about the exact same thing.

Speaker 5 (19:15): Now that said, Bose clocked Amanda at the rehearsal. She completely clocked her.

Speaker 1 (19:20): Completely clocked her, I just have this feeling, Chelsea. I have a very distinct feeling that Amanda shows up that way no matter what room she's in. Yep. Think if we ran into her, you know, at IHOP. Oh, I'm sorry.

Unknown Speaker (19:33): It's probably

Unknown Speaker (19:33): not expensive at night.

Unknown Speaker (19:34): The money doesn't go to IHOP.

Speaker 4 (19:36): Yeah. Not not IHOP.

Speaker 6 (19:38): But maybe it has I in it, so it's about her.

Speaker 1 (19:42): Love it. But if you just ran into her, I think that that's what she's going to give. And and here's what I wanna know. I think it's amazing how successful you are and what you've been able to manifest. And I will say to give her some credit, there is some credibility to the idea of having a psychological relationship with money.

Speaker 1 (20:03): I'm not gonna deny that. And that is actually pretty interesting to me. But what becomes less interesting is that that is what you only lead with. And what I think we wanted to know and and particularly me is like, what has been your journey to get to the point as to why you have prior prioritized this this success that you have, your relationship with money. What is your psychological relationship with money?

Speaker 1 (20:27): Like where have you been as a young girl up until now to get to this point as to why this is important? Like that would have been compelling, but she gave us nothing compelling. Yeah. And I agree, Chelsea, maybe Bose did go so hard in the paint with her, you know, about the asking about her business, but I'm also wondering if you are a seasoned executive, you know, you just cannot stand.

Unknown Speaker (20:55): Well, you can't stand it.

Unknown Speaker (20:56): If I

Unknown Speaker (20:56): just bring you to rest. You gotta say it, you know, I don't wanna sit on it, You know? So I I could see both sides clearly, but I I would have loved to understand. Authentically at the core, Amanda, who are you, little Amanda Francis?

Unknown Speaker (21:09): Did you play with

Unknown Speaker (21:10): Barbie dolls? Did you have a Barbie Dreamhouse? Like like

Speaker 6 (21:13): Right. Like, I need to hear more about this cult then because I feel like if like, that has to be directly related to this weird money thing because if you've decided that everything about you has to be about your money, that must have been a real scary survival situation you were in for it to, like, shape you like this. She doesn't even seem aware that it's weird that she's like, make sure you get my bag. It's like, of course they're gonna get your bag. Look at the show.

Speaker 6 (21:39): Of course they're gonna, like, get your labels. So I think you're right. Like, I would wanna see her talk about that. Something about that.

Unknown Speaker (21:46): She told production to make sure they got the bag.

Unknown Speaker (21:50): I think we should have watched one episode of the show and you would Yes. Know You're gonna get the bag. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (21:56): You'll get all of their bags. She's in Beverly Hills. Dragon frame. You know? Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:02): She really had another idea of what this show was. And, yeah, Chelsea, she definitely should have just watched two episodes at least.

Unknown Speaker (22:11): The lips. It

Speaker 4 (22:12): should be a requirement after this. Yeah. Yeah. I

Speaker 1 (22:16): think I'd wanna know what is the culture of the women. What and how do they move so I could figure out Right. Just to in deference to that, really. Just to be in deference to how they move, and then I can figure myself out later. You know?

Speaker 1 (22:30): But I don't feel she had any investment with anybody else on the show but her, and maybe to possibly promote her brand. I don't mind her coming back next season.

Speaker 6 (22:40): Yeah. If Kyle can come back, I don't care who else comes back. That's how I'm like They

Speaker 1 (22:45): both gotta give us some more stuff.

Speaker 5 (22:47): I'm I'm I'm really fifty fifty on that, and here's why. I watched Amanda on on Watch What Happens Live. I listened to her interview with Carlos King both times. She said, I started to figure it out at the end there and it gets better. And so I was like, oh, okay.

Speaker 5 (23:01): Well then I'm gonna lay off of you for a little while and I'm gonna watch because this is gonna get better. And now we're at reunion part one and I literally need to go comment somewhere like where exactly did it get better. This is actually worse than the season.

Unknown Speaker (23:16): Well, she did apologize. She did apologize a little bit to Dorit. That's true.

Unknown Speaker (23:26): Did To me one apology. Broke. Once.

Speaker 1 (23:32): Which I love, Kelsey. Like, I need Amanda, come on back next season and leave the CB at home and bring your emotions. Leave the bag at home. Take a lesson from Kathy who brings a Trader Joe's bag. Like, you know, and always be

Unknown Speaker (23:48): brave, right? Right.

Speaker 5 (23:50): Level of vulnerability that we're gonna need from her. Even when the ladies were trying to give her that marital advice, did you hear how she was still packaging it with first of all, your husband felt emasculated. He did not like what you had to say, period, full stop. But she's like, I make a lot of money. And he was like, but did you have to say it?

Speaker 5 (24:10): But it's true. I make a lot of money.

Unknown Speaker (24:12): But he just said it he even said it during the vows. Like, when she said when they said for richer for richer for richer for richer for richer. And he just, like, rolled his eyes, like, literally. You know? Like I know.

Speaker 4 (24:23): He's like, she keeps talking about money. That's all she ever talks about.

Unknown Speaker (24:27): But why just say that?

Speaker 6 (24:29): Yeah. Although it makes me wonder about him too because I'm like, well, this is her personality all the time. I'm assuming you like the packaging. Why are you agreeing to marry this person who keeps throwing money in your face? It feels like he's a a pet.

Speaker 4 (24:43): Yeah. I like what Rachel said to her. You emasculated him, and she said she would never do that to Roger. She made all the money in that relationship.

Unknown Speaker (24:53): Yeah. Yeah. You never really

Speaker 1 (24:55): saw that on the Rachel Zoe show. I don't believe I saw her emasculating him, but she No. Now I'm wondering just work with me here. If she's that comfortable in emasculating her husband on TV and reminding him of her relationship with money and that she's the breadwinner, did she what did she see modeled between her mother and father? You know, like, why does that show up?

Speaker 1 (25:21): And I'm just kind of going like off the cuff here but like, why?

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Speaker 6 (26:31): Yeah. No. You think about the cult too. You're like, well, if you're stuck somewhere, if you don't have money.

Unknown Speaker (26:39): Yeah.

Speaker 6 (26:39): And, like, the person with the money makes all the rules. I don't know. I would need to I feel like she acts like she's from Kimmy Schmidt. So, like, that's the kind of energy I'm getting cult wise. But I kind of I it's not as fun when it's a reality show, I guess.

Speaker 1 (26:55): Not as fun. One thing about Amanda that she's gotta improve on, baby dolls, you coming back next season, you need to improve that relationship with feedback. Grown women Yeah. At that stage who have been through some life happening, some real stuff. Right?

Unknown Speaker (27:10): Real stuff. They're giving you, they were literally sitting there on the couch giving you mom of wisdom, like, sis, like, this is what we need to do to level up. And you just keep fighting back, like, fighting back, like Right. And does not receive any feedback at all.

Speaker 5 (27:27): Which how are you gonna be a coach? How are you gonna be a coach telling people how to improve their lives? So are yours perfect? And that's to your point, Elle, about where's the vulnerability? If Amanda Evans instead said, you know what?

Speaker 5 (27:40): My husband didn't like that, but because of my childhood and, like, my history my like, my history with money, this is why I'm so passionate about it. And in our marriage, it's something that we have to work through. It would have been like, oh, okay. So this is a journey that you're on, and you recognize that like maybe some of your things come are were a little bit obnoxious, it comes from a place that's understandable. She didn't give us that.

Speaker 5 (28:05): It was just, no, he's good. He said something, but, you know, he's good because I do make the most money and, you know, he he's

Speaker 1 (28:12): Every used every time I hear that, I just like but I come from a different school about how you uplift and elevate your husband in public. So like,

Unknown Speaker (28:23): you know

Unknown Speaker (28:24): Well, in general. Yeah. But I Your partner and yeah. Yeah. Your partner, like Partner in general.

Speaker 6 (28:29): You wouldn't talk to like, the way they she feels comfortable just throwing her paycheck in people's face feels like someone's first day on earth. Like, it's like that's why the women keep, like, throwing advice at her because they're very closed off, but they're like, my god. This is, like, bad. We need to help her.

Speaker 4 (28:47): Need help tried.

Unknown Speaker (28:48): Yeah. Erica's really trying.

Unknown Speaker (28:51): Great advice.

Unknown Speaker (28:52): Really trying. And and she was like, finally, like, okay. I got other thing. I got 25,000,000 to worry about. Let me go manifest this lawsuit away.

Speaker 1 (28:59): You know? Yeah. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (29:01): And I think at that moment is when I lost hope in Amanda coming

Unknown Speaker (29:04): back a little bit.

Speaker 5 (29:05): Really? Like I lost the investment in it because I'm like, oh, no. No. No. This is like them being vulnerable with you right now.

Speaker 5 (29:12): This is just like big sister advice. Right? If you can't connect with these these women in this moment, then I don't have any hope that you're going to be able to connect with them because you don't like conflict and you're not moving off of that point. You okay. If you don't wanna have conflict, then you have to have what?

Unknown Speaker (29:29): Friendship.

Unknown Speaker (29:30): Absolutely. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:31): If you can't take that big sister advice of like, it it I don't see how this gets better.

Speaker 1 (29:39): I don't see how it gets better either. But part two on April 30 is going to be something to behold and the conflict is going to even escalate even more. We have Jennifer Tilley though bringing a slight levity in full fashion mode in her balmain custom made by the way Amanda not winter twenty twenty one. And we have Kathy Hilton who's going to be giving her unconventional diet tips. Kyle is going to open up about her marriage.

Speaker 1 (30:07): And part three is the showdown. Erica, Darit, and Kyle. And Kyle putting on her big girl panties and confronting bows. Part three. So that's where we'll get to get a sense, Chelsea, who's coming back?

Speaker 1 (30:26): Is Amanda coming back? You know, what is going on with the show and where the franchise is going? So I think that they have done a great job of boring us to tears during the entire season. But but we put our Kleenex away and and now we are all in it and we're engaged. So I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 1 (30:45): Hey. Before we before we we leave, you know, we can't not not talk about the scandal in the room.

Unknown Speaker (30:54): Scandal house. I mean, summer house.

Speaker 1 (30:58): Summer house. I am real Now that's a reunion I cannot wait to watch. And when Andy came out of the reunion taping and put that video on viral yesterday about how in 30 I think he's shot 30 reunions. He's never had one more disturbing and dark as this one. He says all the questions were asked.

Speaker 1 (31:22): What are we what are we thinking about about the reunion?

Speaker 4 (31:25): Well, did you get did you hear the leaked audio that sent you that I texted you? So there's leaked audio from the reunion that directly answers that question. I heard all of it. You did too, Gina?

Unknown Speaker (31:39): Yeah. Kelsey? Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (31:41): No, I did not hear that.

Unknown Speaker (31:42): Like two and a

Unknown Speaker (31:43): half minutes.

Speaker 4 (31:44): Gina, we will do it. We will explain it. The gist of it is that West and Amanda are going hard for Sierra, and there's no remorse and there's no apology. Amanda straight up says, I lied to you. I lied to you.

Speaker 6 (32:05): And she even says like she's like, well, she uses Sierra's words against her. She says, well, according to you, you can't help who you love. And it's like, oh my god. So you took so you took the thing that she said where she was like, I'm talking about this, like, stuff I'm dealing with, this racial dynamic that I don't even wanna have to deal with this force on me through the viewers. I thought you didn't remember it, and that's that was, like, your grace, now you do remember it.

Speaker 6 (32:33): You were just saving it so that you could sleep with our Robin Williams looking boyfriend. Okay.

Speaker 4 (32:40): Which he does look a lot he looks like him.

Unknown Speaker (32:42): Yeah. You know, Chelsea and I had the same reaction, sis. I know you feel me. I'm about to, like

Unknown Speaker (32:46): because, like, I feel like

Unknown Speaker (32:47): I wanna just, like, fly to New York and just take the earrings off, which I don't have any, and just be like, really, Amanda? Like, seriously, don't come for Sierra that way.

Speaker 4 (32:56): Don't come for got this.

Unknown Speaker (32:58): Don't do that.

Speaker 6 (33:00): It feels like it feels like Sierra reminds me of Erica where it's like she's gets accused of being not that friendly, but it's because she's got such a big heart and has been through so much that once you get in, it's very hard for her to, like, be mean to you or turn you away. And she's been like, Erica was trying to be but better, like, building women up. She took Amanda and her tragic story and really amped it up. To see all this thrown back in her face is, like, as nauseating. I I don't know how how they're walking around New York with all their teeth in their face.

Speaker 1 (33:33): We talked about this yesterday. We talked about this yesterday, and and one of the theories that we had was is that this Amanda West, whatever this is, whatever that is trying to be, is not so much possibly about them being attracted to each other, but them wanting to get it back them wanting to clap back at Sierra. West wants to clap back because he's mad at her for not forgiving him. He's mad at her for getting national attention when he did that interview with the New York Times, think it was. And Amanda is mad because she's got low self worth compared to Sierra and she has always been envious and jealous.

Speaker 1 (34:14): And that not is someone who was ever your friend. That has got to hurt more than anything.

Speaker 6 (34:22): Yep. Well, because she knew exactly how much it would hurt Ciara. And I feel like when we saw West talking to her the other day and he was, like, actually honest for the first time, and it looked like he was gonna cry because he was like, I really just was mad at you, basically, because the Internet took your side, and it just made me wanna hurt the person who the Internet was siding with. And it's like, well, then you're a sociopath.

Unknown Speaker (34:45): Yes. That

Speaker 6 (34:46): feels like the only reason you got with Amanda was because you wanted to hurt her. Everything was to just hurt her. And then he gets to be, like, very Schwartz y about it afterwards. Be like, oh, I'm sorry. I'm just like that guy who's kinda goofy.

Speaker 6 (34:59): It's like no. You don't get to be this unattractive and this bad to women. Like, you don't get to do both of those things. You have to pick a lane.

Speaker 5 (35:06): And that's the thing. So I'll admit to you guys. I don't watch Summerhouse. I regret it now that all of this has come out because I desperately wanna catch up, but there's a lot of seasons. So I'm I'm very far behind.

Speaker 5 (35:17): As a non viewer, when I look at Sierra and I look at West, I just get very confused. I don't understand how we got that girl is beautiful. Stunning.

Speaker 6 (35:27): She's gorgeous. Perfect. I think what it is is, like, you know, because you're all pretty, so we've probably all been in this situation where you're like, I'm gonna give that goofy a chance because I feel like he's gonna treat me he's gonna treat me better because he's not, like, traditionally attractive. And they use they use you to leverage into a better situation. They're like, this girl likes me.

Speaker 6 (35:50): I I didn't even try that hard. I could get a better girl than this. And he just keeps playing off of that dynamic, I think. Because he gets to be like, oh, I'm I'm just that guy. And then she's like, oh, he's so sweet and goofy and Oh.

Speaker 6 (36:03): He's lucky to have me. I think that's what happened because I I can't think of anything else.

Speaker 5 (36:08): Well, I need to watch this because I don't get how Sierra and Wes are even in the same sentence, much less a relationship.

Unknown Speaker (36:15): Yeah. I

Unknown Speaker (36:15): don't know. You and America,

Unknown Speaker (36:17): we all feel version so I can really express myself on that.

Unknown Speaker (36:21): Yes. Comes in his

Speaker 4 (36:23): personality somehow. Like, I think in because Kyle even said in that street interview that Wes has game, and he's always trying to, like, manipulate women.

Speaker 6 (36:34): So he's he's really good, especially, like, he's using his powers for evil. He's close to

Unknown Speaker (36:39): his

Speaker 6 (36:39): mom whatever, close to his mom. So he gets to be like, look. I'm, like, proud to be a mama's boy. I'm totally all about treating women right. Let me go defend Amanda from her evil drunken husband even though she's emotionally abusive all the time.

Speaker 6 (36:54): She publicly shames him very subtly all the time. This is very, very narcissistic behavior where she triangulates, she does all the things and stays very low key about it. She did it with Sierra and West, and it feels like it's like being in in jail. You're not friends with your cellmate. You're just like, this is a person I get along with out of everyone else here.

Speaker 6 (37:15): I think West is gross, but maybe he was the funniest and most available at the time, and it made her think of him as more important than he was.

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Unknown Speaker (38:40): I don't know.

Speaker 4 (38:41): We have no idea. Manipulated Sierra and Amanda, to be honest, but she let it happen, so I don't feel bad for her.

Speaker 6 (38:49): Well, I think that she I think that she's always been very I think that she's the girl who needs male attention to feel important, but I also think it's not one of those things where she's like, it'll ever get better. I think she likes she likes that status quo. It's gross.

Unknown Speaker (39:07): It's gross. And she's I'm living for Chelsea's expressions right now.

Speaker 6 (39:11): No. And she also she's super funny looking. So it feels like, I feel bad saying it, but she's an ugly person respectfully. And I just I just I they they fit better together, but I just don't understand how she has that kind of confidence.

Unknown Speaker (39:24): No. I'm fired, Gina. Shots fired.

Speaker 6 (39:26): I'm so sorry. I really like that she was normal looking, but it's true. She's just like She's not

Speaker 5 (39:32): she's not cute. And but every time I hear people explain the show, I'm like, sounds like I'd be really angry if I watch this.

Unknown Speaker (39:39): You would Oh, no.

Unknown Speaker (39:40): You would be. Get on.

Speaker 6 (39:41): I'm I'm angry all the time. I think god kept me from knowing Sierra because he knows I'd be in jail by now. Like, I don't know how how this is happening. It's gross. Amanda was trying

Speaker 4 (39:51): to play victim about that video in the recording. She's like, somebody took an intimate video, and I just Amanda, nobody feels bad for you. Please stop. Like, this is not the time.

Speaker 6 (40:02): The world's not your gynecologist. You should have kept your lettuce closed until everything was comfortable, and then you would have been fine.

Speaker 4 (40:09): Still no Sierra apology. And I think Carl and KJ were the ones that brought it up.

Unknown Speaker (40:14): Yeah. But he

Speaker 4 (40:15): still didn't apologize to her.

Speaker 6 (40:16): Didn't apologize. And they brought up that they were, like, trying to figure out when to talk about it, but that it didn't just start up. And then Lindsay was like, well, how long had it really been going on then? Because if you said it just started getting serious, you must have been doing stuff beforehand. It's sad.

Speaker 5 (40:33): So what was Sierra's energy in the recording? Like, was she

Speaker 6 (40:37): Sierra seemed angry, but but, like, not hysterical angry. Like like, she was gonna let them have it, and she wasn't taking any bullshit, but, like, also that she she's not it's bridge is burned. Like, it's done.

Speaker 1 (40:55): Let me just let's just take a before we end, a little walk down memory lane and and talk about Sierra's in a very, like, quick and dirty way. Her her journey on this show. Oh. First of all, she rides on the show that first season. And you guys remember when she walked in.

Speaker 1 (41:15): When she walked in, the whole room stopped.

Unknown Speaker (41:17): Mhmm.

Speaker 1 (41:17): Yes. This is the only woman on that on the history of that show that every guy has wanted in some way, shape, or form since she's been on the show.

Unknown Speaker (41:26): Okay.

Speaker 1 (41:26): Amanda wasn't clocking that energy. Ever. She's kinda clocking that energy. Maybe those two neck and neck, hand in hand. Okay.

Speaker 1 (41:33): But she's the only one that everybody has tried to date, and she's always been super hands off. For whatever reason Right. She gave her heart to Austin, and I wanted to go through the TV and go, girl, bad move, bad move.

Unknown Speaker (41:44): Same reason. Yep.

Speaker 1 (41:46): Bad move. He is another white gentleman who dragged her heart, Chelsea. Dragged it to Bill, dragged it to all kinds of Bill. And, you know, it implied a lot of stereotypical kind of themes that came up thematically that were very present in that relationship. She was very hurt by it.

Speaker 1 (42:05): She came back and she G'd up and I think Luke tried to get closer. She's like not having any parts of it. She wasn't having any parts of anybody, anybody, anybody. And then Wes came into the chat. And for whatever reason, I can't figure out to you just like Eugenia, short short arms, little hands.

Unknown Speaker (42:22): That's what

Unknown Speaker (42:23): it is, though. I think you're right.

Unknown Speaker (42:26): Attraction is.

Speaker 6 (42:26): No. It was it was for her, the awesome thing, I think that they're both the same kind of unattractive. Like, they just look like mayo sandwiches to me, but he's a taller version, and he's a little bit, more graceful and charming, let's say. But I think with West, she was so resistant to get to know anyone, and he was, like, younger and kept trying and kept was so funny. And, like, I think he was I think he's scary because he genuinely got to know her.

Speaker 6 (42:57): Because even in the episode where he was like, I know more about that house and what it means to you than anyone else in that room. I but I didn't say anything. It's like so I think he got to know her and her gained her trust like a friend, and then it went from there.

Speaker 1 (43:11): So And then she felt that he was legitimized because he had a cohort of black friends who came to the party, the one of the first parties that he attended. She's like, oh, okay. And she kinda felt safe with that. And then he dragged her to bills. You know, they dated, not Manilse She pulls up the New York Times and he finds out Yep.

Unknown Speaker (43:29): That she finds out that he says, well, Sierra is just really not my person. That's really not my person.

Unknown Speaker (43:34): And

Speaker 1 (43:34): she has no idea that she had just been with them, I think, a couple days prior before the Yep. The article came out. And all this time, Chelsea, Amanda is her friend. Now Wes is one thing.

Unknown Speaker (43:46): Whatever.

Speaker 1 (43:48): Yeah. Can you imagine? You and I are friends, like, for eight seasons and we are riding hard in the paint for each other. I'm supporting you. You look like you supported me and the whole time you're clocking my life waiting for my demise.

Speaker 1 (44:00): That is the part that's so super hard. And so I bulk at commentary. This is like, don't know why she was so upset. She wasn't debated. No.

Unknown Speaker (44:08): Because she lost a friend. And girlfriends

Speaker 6 (44:10): are It's harder than divorce. Girlfriends are like frail. It's it's harder than than a divorce or a breakup because you don't expect your friends to break up with you or betray you. You expect that maybe that won't work out with a a partner. Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (44:25): So to summarize what you just said, and I'll make sure I understand fully. Beautiful black girl walks into an all white cast Mhmm. Dates two white men, both that play her terribly. Mhmm. Then she gets betrayed by her was it her best friend or a really close friend?

Unknown Speaker (44:43): Very best. Well Really close.

Unknown Speaker (44:45): They were in the they yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:48): They're best friends this season.

Unknown Speaker (44:49): You know

Unknown Speaker (44:50): what? They did call each other best friends.

Unknown Speaker (44:51): She's not gonna receive apology for that at the reunion? And then they did they come to the reunion with no remorse Mhmm.

Unknown Speaker (44:58): For what

Unknown Speaker (44:58): they've done.

Unknown Speaker (44:59): Can't watch the show.

Unknown Speaker (45:00): I I can just need I'm sorry for saying this, but I need her to find her black card and check them to fill. I need this. And if not, we will stand outside. We will we will do it for you because I will.

Unknown Speaker (45:12): I think she will.

Speaker 6 (45:13): There's we'll we'll have an ally, like, flagship too. I'll come out too.

Unknown Speaker (45:19): Is because this is

Unknown Speaker (45:20): a thing.

Speaker 6 (45:21): This is, like, the way that that she's getting treated, like, has more feel her mental health is so important because she looks has the coloring of a Barbie doll. She does not look like a Barbie doll, but has the coloring of a Barbie doll. Fantastic. Her mental health wasn't that bad when she was binge drinking or when she was sleeping with this guy behind her back her friend's back. She's not concerned.

Speaker 6 (45:43): But but we are worried.

Speaker 5 (45:45): To have a conversation with Lanethia Leakes from Yes. South Plaza Atlanta. It it like, I can't watch the show if she's not coming with that kind of energy. Can you

Unknown Speaker (45:57): She

Unknown Speaker (45:57): needs talking energy.

Unknown Speaker (45:58): Yeah. That's energy that needs

Speaker 1 (45:59): to And while you add it, let's just let's put a call to action out of Sheree, Nini, Cynthia. Who else? Phaedra, Portia, Kay, Michelle. All you guys need to build a circle of support.

Unknown Speaker (46:13): Yeah. Candace from Potomac. Candace from Potomac.

Unknown Speaker (46:17): Can I

Unknown Speaker (46:17): just grab Oh, yeah?

Unknown Speaker (46:19): That knife in one hand, that triangle in the other. It'll be perfect.

Unknown Speaker (46:22): Yeah. Build a circle of support. Yeah. We will gladly facilitate that support for you. Yep.

Unknown Speaker (46:28): Well, we don't want I would not wanna see her on that stage crying. Like, no tears.

Unknown Speaker (46:33): She better Oh, no.

Speaker 6 (46:34): I do want giving Ariana energy. It feels very much like she's there. Like, and I don't know if you guys saw the sonic commercial. I don't usually care about commercials. The sonic commercial The sonic commercial was everything, and that is very much the energy she's coming with is like, no.

Speaker 6 (46:49): She's it felt it felt like she was mad at herself for letting this happen again. Not like it's her fault, but, like, I should have known better because how twice did I get played by this troll?

Speaker 1 (46:59): Because sometimes when you have the unbelievable hope and compassion Yes. For people and with sometimes empaths put more currency on other people and the hope of other people than they do on their own self and let alone their own intuition. And her intuition was speaking to her. And even after on that deck and he says, well, I really resent it. Sorry, Sierra.

Unknown Speaker (47:24): That was when you were supposed to put that hope to the side. He said, you said what? You mean you resented me? That's gonna show up and be your friend?

Unknown Speaker (47:31): That's why she needs Paige there.

Speaker 4 (47:33): Even.

Speaker 6 (47:34): She needed Paige there to be like because Paige was the closest thing to having energy checked. Right? Like, I mean, Lindsay's crazy, but and she'll check energy. But Paige is very much like, why are you like this? Stop it.

Speaker 6 (47:46): And, like, you feel shame like your mother just scolded you in front of everyone. You're like, okay. Like, she would have been, like, that psychotic. You can't say things like that. Go go outside.

Speaker 6 (47:54): Like

Unknown Speaker (47:55): Wouldn't it be great if she was a secret guest on the reunion?

Unknown Speaker (47:57): Would that.

Speaker 6 (47:59): They should have her hide in there as as one of the cardboard cutouts in the house just pop out.

Unknown Speaker (48:04): Pop out.

Unknown Speaker (48:04): Special guest. Paint. And then she just comes out and, like, thrashes

Unknown Speaker (48:09): Yes.

Unknown Speaker (48:09): Everybody.

Unknown Speaker (48:10): As she should.

Speaker 1 (48:11): I hope she squabbles up and reads them the right way. I am so excited about that reunion. Well, you guys, this has been so much fun.

Unknown Speaker (48:20): Thank you for

Unknown Speaker (48:21): having us.

Unknown Speaker (48:22): Thank you for being here.

Unknown Speaker (48:24): Yes. And guys, they will be back with us for the next two reunions. I think you will even be back with us for Summerhouse. This might be a regular Friday thing.

Unknown Speaker (48:33): I don't know. Great.

Unknown Speaker (48:34): I like it.

Unknown Speaker (48:35): I'm feeling it. You know where to find us, the goodeditunfiltered.com. That's where all the links are. You can find us there. Don't forget to find us on YouTube and subscribe, share, and tell your friends.

Speaker 1 (48:46): And please do comment. Hey. Give us some ideas about what you want us to cover too. You know? We were we will do the hard work and bring it to you.

Unknown Speaker (48:55): Until then, we will see you on the other side. Bye, Gina. Bye, Chelsea. Bye, Kat. Bye.

Unknown Speaker (49:00): Bye. Don't leave.

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