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Speaker 4 (1:43): Well, it's about that time. It's time to get on into the valley. So much to say. Talk to me.

Speaker 7 (1:51): This was one of the better episodes for me personally because I felt like there was more going on than usual. Although the fighting is getting stale once again.

Speaker 4 (2:03): Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank Thank you.

Speaker 4 (2:07): Thank you. Couple of things. So the narrative is out there that La la is a producer plant and that La la is there to do the bidding of Alex Baskin and to, I guess, be that middle person, whatever that means. I don't know if I believe that or not. Maybe she is.

Speaker 4 (2:34): Maybe she isn't. La la doesn't strike me as someone who would do that. So I've given her emphasis on just kinda just calling it like she says it and living out loud. But if that's true, regardless, she was able to get Danny to at least apologize for the first time. Right?

Speaker 7 (2:56): Yep. And that would make so much sense why she walked up to them on the beach when they were talking about her, why she was involved in so many of these arguments today. So it would make sense, maybe not a plant, but you're hired and if you wanna say hired, like you're gonna have to bring up these conversations.

Unknown Speaker (3:23): Okay, yeah. I mean, so is she a plant?

Unknown Speaker (3:26): I don't know. I don't know if

Speaker 4 (3:27): she's a plant. Is she leveraging her space in her casting to kinda be a bridge between all of this conflict and to make it make sense? Yeah. Possibly. But I think she's been that person even on Vanderpump.

Speaker 4 (3:41): Right?

Unknown Speaker (3:42): Exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (3:44): So I was impressed, and I had hope when Danny authentically apologized. I thought that that was a moment until it wasn't until he gets back to the hotel room with Nia. And let's talk about what happened there. I mean Hi. It's

Unknown Speaker (4:00): like Oh god. Does he respect his wife? Is anyone having fun on this trip? I just really don't understand. It's the blind loyalty

Speaker 4 (4:16): that he expected his wife to have his back. And I think to Nia's credit, all she was trying to do was to clarify Right. What La la was saying. Now where in where in that exchange do you perceive that she wasn't being loyal?

Speaker 7 (4:37): And so instead of simply just listening to her or saying, babe, right now, I'm a little triggered. I'm not gonna take what you say

Speaker 4 (4:46): Right.

Speaker 7 (4:47): The right way. He just completely snapped on his own wife. And if you can't be her partner and make her feel safe, then what, what are you there for really? And it seems like there's so many instances with Danny where this alcohol keeps becoming a problem. What do you think?

Speaker 4 (5:12): Well, I did notice how she did kinda acquiesce to him and just said, okay, I'm sorry.

Unknown Speaker (5:17): That's, yeah.

Speaker 4 (5:19): The way they interact is foreign to me. Continually being in deference to whatever your husband says and decides what is right, that's a different kind of relationship and it's kind of different You know? But I suppose that's what has to be done in order to be his wife. So, you know, she's leaning into that. Hey.

Speaker 4 (5:40): And she's happy with it. So, you know, let me stay out of it. But it is different to watch. Right?

Unknown Speaker (5:46): Yeah.

Speaker 4 (5:49): I'm so exhausted from this fight. I'm exhausted and I think that this is why the show isn't working is because the whole show is riding on something that happened two years ago. And correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe Janet has apologized. So many times.

Speaker 7 (6:10): Hasn't she apologized around nine times or something? Yes,

Speaker 4 (6:14): And then authentically apologized earlier this season. Yes. And Mia says, I don't think that that was a real apology. Now you resurface the apology again, and she gets frustrated that she's kind of starting to get piled on. And then you say, well, she didn't mean the apology anyway.

Speaker 4 (6:31): Well, that's your confirmation bias. That's the confirmation you were looking for. Right. And I just don't think that they want her to be forgiven. And I don't understand why this is a continually big deal.

Speaker 4 (6:41): I mean, the audiences are really going in on Janet saying she's supperable. Bloggers are saying she's the most insufferable.

Speaker 7 (6:47): Oh my God. I had, I thought people were finally warming up to Janet.

Speaker 4 (6:53): I just think that for us to watch a whole entire season and we're still harping on what Janet said, now Danny has PTSD. Oh God.

Speaker 7 (7:09): When he said that, I was like, you are just trying to get some therapy talk and find a reason to make us feel bad for you. Okay. But to his credit, I could see in his world

Speaker 4 (7:24): in entertainment as a as an actor, as a character actor, or a voice over actor, the mention of somebody being SA'd sexuallyassaulted could have repercussions on his career. I could see where that would absolutely, absolutely, I see it. But notwithstanding, your alcohol habits lead you to act a certain kind of way that in this case and a couple of other cases, you became handsy with people. Exactly. Respect all of a boundary.

Unknown Speaker (7:57): They're very

Unknown Speaker (7:57): touchy with women. Yeah. And some people could say that they felt assaulted. Exactly. If you're smacking someone's butt, it's technically, it could be called SA if the person wants it to.

Speaker 4 (8:17): Right. We know that that term sexual assault, he was obviously bothered by it. Right. Possibly just being labeled that could carry lethal consequences in his industry. But you know, according to the National Sexual Violence and Resource Center, sexual assault refers to any unwelcome behavior of a sexual nature that is committed without consent or by force, intimidation, or coercion or manipulation.

Unknown Speaker (8:46): See, there you This

Speaker 4 (8:47): was an unwanted behavior and it could border on being of a sexual nature, which is why it was so easy to default to the term sexual assault in a heated moment, maybe not even recognizing the long term consequences that term would have on his career. I'm sure there's other words that she could have used, it's I still the same just don't understand why we're still talking about this. And I don't remember if Danny has ever I know he apologized to Jasmine, but has he ever really owned up to the fact that my drinking takes me these places and I think I need to change it? Has he ever done that? I don't know if he's done it.

Speaker 7 (9:25): I've not heard him say, I have a drinking problem or anything like that.

Speaker 4 (9:30): The fact of the matter is he got handsy and it comes across it can be interpreted as sexual. And my thing is is that I don't think, while he has apologized to Janet and Melissa, I don't think he's ever acknowledged, when I drink, this is what happens to my behavior, I get obnoxious, and I get belligerent, and I'm not nice to my wife. Have we ever really seen an apology like that? But instead harping on Janet for something that she's already apologized for. Now you're crimes.

Speaker 4 (9:59): I think so. And then they're in the van and Nia still wants to harp on it again.

Speaker 7 (10:05): Oh my god, Nia. You know what I got from this episode? Danny told Nia, well, you're not defending your husband. And you know what I got from that? I wonder if they argue every time he feels like she's not defending him enough.

Speaker 7 (10:25): I wonder that's why this whole, like, defense comes out from Mia. He said you're not defending your husband. So it's like he expects a really strong defense from his wife, whatever that may be.

Speaker 4 (10:43): Okay. Well, this could be easily solved with how about not doing anything that I have to defend?

Unknown Speaker (10:48): Exactly. Exactly. I mean

Speaker 4 (10:53): There's a solution to that. So anyway, I just don't like the pile on with Janet, and I know people think she's insufferable. I don't think she's insufferable. I think she's very exacting. I think she's also very triggered by her own experience of being married to someone that struggled with drug and alcohol issues.

Speaker 4 (11:13): And maybe she did speak impulsively without weighing the consequences, but she has beyond apologized. And for whatever reason, Nia and and Danny are holding on to this when they should really be looking and putting that energy on themselves. Like, seriously, it's like, it's gone too far. It's annoying. And this is what the entire season is based on, this stupid comment about sex hormones fault.

Unknown Speaker (11:37): You know, let it go. Let it freaking go. It's just It's been

Unknown Speaker (11:43): thirteen years.

Unknown Speaker (11:44): Unwatchable. It's becoming unwatchable. It really is.

Speaker 7 (11:46): It really is because with Luke and Kristen, it's the same postpartum fight. He doesn't understand. She's always at home by herself. With Danny, Nia, and Janet, there's the same fight. So and then Tom Schwartz, I feel like is just being the goofy guy.

Speaker 7 (12:08): Like, La la is giving. She's giving. She's trying to move story along at least, but I don't see it for the valley. I don't either, and all of

Speaker 4 (12:18): the men that are in a relationship have a really bad edit. I mean, the edit is saying that none of them ain't, you know what? You know? Jesse is allegedly broke. You know?

Speaker 4 (12:32): Zach is is is being edited to look like a creep and pressuring his wife for sex and not understanding and leaning into her postpartum when really he's doing the best that he can. You have Danny who is being edited and possibly authentically edited as a person that whose behavior gets out of control when he drinks. You know? And it's just the show is just discombobulated. I'm so sorry.

Speaker 4 (12:57): It is. As much as each of those characters are entertaining individually and they all have assets that are you know, admirable as a collective and as a as an ensemble. This the show is just not doing it. I I hate to say it. It just really it's misfiring every time.

Speaker 7 (13:13): I don't know why the editors and producers think we want the same recycled story every single week. It's never changing. There's no progress on anyone's side. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (13:30): I hate to say it, and I and I'm very neutral about this character, but I think Sheena Shay would be a good addition to this. I know. And then you at least have, you know, an ally who's really gonna speak up on behalf of Janet, Sheena being Sheena, and she's not afraid to throw punches. One thing about Sheena, she is, for the most part, pretty loyal to her friends, I think. Really?

Unknown Speaker (13:55): I don't know. Let's talk about Luke and Kristen.

Speaker 7 (14:01): Well, once again, it was one of their fights. It was it seemed less argumentative. Maybe that's because they were on the beach or more days passed, but it seemed still it was a fight. They got into this huge argument at the bar.

Speaker 4 (14:22): Mhmm.

Speaker 7 (14:22): And it seems to me that they keep hurling insults, accusations to each other. Like, well, you didn't do this. Well, you don't do this and you don't let me do this. What do you have? Like, what do you think about that?

Speaker 7 (14:38): Is this normal?

Speaker 4 (14:41): I think they both care about each other very much, and they're both really good parents, and they're both confronted with the life transition that is so overwhelming to them in real time while having to film this show. I mean, just all these transitions are incredibly overwhelming. You have Kristen, who is conceivably eight to nine years older than Luke. That in itself, given his age, he's probably still having a hard time transitioning from party animal Luke to being a father, party animal Luke to supporting a woman with postpartum. Do think he's trying and doing his best.

Speaker 4 (15:16): Even Zach said that you do support her. I mean, he has eye he's he's witnessed it and he's talked about it on the show. Yeah. But I also think that Kristen has some authentic anxiety around being a new mom and leaving her child, which makes a whole lot of sense. But the way they communicate together is really exhausting to watch.

Speaker 4 (15:34): It's so exhausting. It really is. I mean, honestly, like real talk, let's just be honest, this entire episode was exhausting. It was just fighting from the moment they got on the screen until the end.

Speaker 7 (15:46): No. It's true. And it's getting to the point where I'm like, ugh. Whenever we have to watch the recaps, I'm almost, like, cringing. Like, what are what's gonna happen today?

Speaker 7 (15:58): Another fight with Janet or about Janet. It's like the same story.

Speaker 4 (16:06): Yeah. The audience is not kind. Not kind.

Speaker 7 (16:11): No, they're not. And I wish they would just lay off of Janet already. You know, she's had enough in my opinion. I know it's unpopular.

Speaker 4 (16:22): Yeah, I think so too. What about Britney? The whole Britney of it all. The Britney and the

Speaker 7 (16:27): What about Jesse making Britney out to be the bad guy? It's like he has this little plan, but it didn't work out. She was like, oh, Jesse, please. I don't care what you say. Like, he has this plan.

Speaker 7 (16:44): Because last week he was trying to get the guys to work against Britney, and then this week he's trying to do it again.

Speaker 4 (16:52): And I think that Danny, to his credit, really saw that she was telling the truth. She says, I did not have a plot against you. That was all Jack's. But Jesse did make a good, you know, you're married to Jack's guilty by association. I mean, people are gonna automatically think you're guilty.

Speaker 4 (17:04): So I could see a world where Danny possibly believed that she was part of this plot. But it seemed like he really locked into the fact that, okay, you weren't a part of it, and I'm sorry. My bad. I was so relieved that he apologized. I'm thinking, good.

Speaker 4 (17:18): We're on a roll. Can we just bring that back to Janet? Can you just apologize to Janet? I I think Janet has already apologized to you. I mean, it's just I I can't imagine what it would be like to have I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (17:28): I'm still stuck on that pile on that I just saw. It's just it's awful.

Speaker 7 (17:31): It's horrible. I would never get to the point where I would even apologize, I don't think. At that moment, I'd be like, you know what? I'm not effing sorry to you or you or you because it's like a person can only handle so much.

Speaker 4 (17:50): On the van, which is why she didn't say anything. And I understand that reaction when people are just, like, gnawing on you, and they're like, you you have no words. Your your words get arrested. You have nothing to say. All you feel feel is yourself getting heated, and you just want out.

Speaker 4 (18:03): And that's exactly what she did. So she leaves and now they're blaming her for leaving. Well, why would she stay in a place like that? She's already apologized to you three or four or five times. Like, who are you?

Speaker 7 (18:11): And what? Get attacked by Danny and Kristen and Nia? Come on. No way.

Unknown Speaker (18:17): No way. They're like

Speaker 7 (18:18): the strongest forces, some would say bullies, of the show, at least Dani and Kristen. So, of course, she's not gonna be the only one to just stand up to them. There would have to be so many people that have her What

Speaker 4 (18:35): do you think it would take to turn this show around? We've already talked about Sheena as maybe, you know, somebody that comes on to the show, but let's take Sheena out of it and let's just deal with the cast that we're blessed with. What do you think what is it that we need to what does what does the show need to give to keep our attention? Because as of today, as of this episode, it's lost my attention. And it's no knock on the characters, but it's completely lost my attention.

Speaker 7 (19:01): It's lost my attention. The only thing I like is La la. And I did not think that I was gonna say that. What I think the show needs is a really stern talking to from Alex Baskin or whoever is the executive producer running the show and basically threatening them that if they don't start getting along, then they're easily replaceable and they could just get replaced. Okay.

Speaker 4 (19:28): You bring up a good point because reconciliation is part of the package, conflict and then reconciliation. And you have one camp that's extremely stubborn that just doesn't wanna do it. But in terms of story, in terms of story, what do we need? Because this is not enough. It's just That is true.

Unknown Speaker (19:48): That's a good point.

Speaker 4 (19:49): That's my question. That's my real question. I think you're right. I think that they really do need to move towards reconciliation on some level. But apart from that, do these characters have anything going on in their lives that's worth watching, that could be leveraged to make this show watchable?

Speaker 7 (20:09): My first instinct is to say no. No. That's an unfortunate no. No. No.

Speaker 7 (20:16): We see Benjie and Zach. They're adorable, but is there anything to see? Probably they don't fight. We see Jasmine and and Melissa. They love each it's right?

Speaker 7 (20:28): They love each other so much, so they never argue. Jax is gone. It just seems like there's no drama. So they have to do this Janet pile on. We cannot survive another year of this.

Unknown Speaker (20:45): No. Another week.

Speaker 7 (20:48): Yeah. I'll stop watching if there's just this Janet pile on can only last. This is it.

Speaker 4 (20:57): But then we wouldn't have a show. Which goes back to the question, what would the show be without this Janet pile on? What else do they have going on in their lives that could be leveraged as something that we'd wanna watch? Is the question nothing? And this is all we've got is is pile on Janet.

Speaker 7 (21:19): That is so scary because then we do not have a show. We don't at all. I didn't feel that way about the Persian Valley. I don't feel that way about in the city, but the Valley is that one show where I feel like, what is there really?

Speaker 4 (21:40): Persian Valley worked because each of them had each of those couples. And it was a show about couples as much as culture. Each of those couples had something going on. So we got to see them handling their own life drama and also the Gigi and Sky drama as well. And it wasn't just about one thing, you know?

Speaker 4 (22:02): Then I think the following week was about we leaned into Tommy and MJ that took up one I think, Mike, the entirety of one episode, you know? They had different serious life happenings being amplified for us to watch, which made it interesting. And their conflict was interesting because they resolved it quickly.

Speaker 7 (22:20): You're so right. They resolved everything so quickly and they just got along. Like they were like, anyway, let's smoke or something. And I love that.

Speaker 4 (22:32): In the city, right? Like, in the city is starting to develop where we have the Kyle and Amanda drama that's not going away anytime soon. We've got Lindsey trying to transition into being a MILF. We've got Yvonne and Nick trying to have a baby. We have Kenny and Yippee trying to find his dad, and they're adapting to being a couple and what all that means for friendship groups.

Speaker 4 (22:54): So they each have something interesting going on that could be leveraged. So now you take those two shows and then you use that as a standard to evaluate what the valley is or is not doing. What do each of these characters on this show have to bring aside from piling on Janet?

Speaker 7 (23:13): I honestly, Elle, don't think much.

Unknown Speaker (23:18): Exactly. And

Speaker 7 (23:18): that sounds so cynical, but I like, I wanted to give you an answer so bad, but the city in the city has something unique. It has the city. It has the fast paced. They're all really friends. They're in each other's lives.

Speaker 7 (23:34): And now we've got two pregnant women on the show, so that could go on forever. They each have something I think.

Speaker 4 (23:43): Have interest, something interesting going on in their lives that makes you want to watch it. That's also relatable. Nothing reliable going on with, with the Valley. They are all piling on this one issue that literally is seven fifty days old.

Unknown Speaker (23:56): And it seems so forced and

Unknown Speaker (23:59): It does, man.

Speaker 7 (24:00): It does. Even the fights that aren't Janet related, they seem so performative.

Speaker 4 (24:08): Yeah, it does. Just, I don't know.

Unknown Speaker (24:11): I'm more. I know. I don't know if they're gonna get a season three. And I mean, a season four. I do

Speaker 4 (24:19): wanna give Zach his flowers though, because I think Zach is a very authentic person and he really likes reconciliation. And I have to give him his flowers for holding Danny's feet to the fire and basically making him admit you were drinking at the house, right?

Speaker 7 (24:36): Yeah, that's true. I love that he spotlighted that. Yeah, he didn't let

Unknown Speaker (24:42): that But

Unknown Speaker (24:42): you don't have to lie. We're not going to let you get away with anything.

Speaker 4 (24:46): Yeah. But it seems that he authentically wants to have the group together, but I just don't think that there's enough glue there to keep them together and to keep us entertained at the same time. I just don't.

Speaker 7 (24:58): We'll have to see if them not fighting the whole time is entertaining at all. Because so far, we haven't seen it.

Speaker 4 (25:09): I don't know. The show's just not working.

Speaker 7 (25:10): There's no subject material. There's no, like, climax of the show. Like, there's nothing there's nothing keeping us there.

Speaker 4 (25:19): Yeah. Yeah. I would love to have a conversation. Like, if I had my choice, I would love to have a conversation with Zach and just his entire journey and understand why friendship and reconciliation within, you know, the friendship group is so important to him, Seems to really advocate for healing in the group in his best possible way, but very good about holding people accountable. So it seems like he is like very respected in that friend group for that.

Speaker 4 (25:50): Want to also know from Kristen, like, tell us, like, authentically what this has been like, and where did your anxiety come from? Like and talk to us more about this journey of motherhood. Her baby is is so gorgeous. Mean, I we

Speaker 7 (26:06): know what she's thinking because Sheena has told us as the audience that she has OCD, like postpartum OCD. So I would love to know what Kristen is thinking about in that regard. I just get curious as far as internal thoughts. Like, is it just worry about the baby constantly? Is it all the intrusive thoughts of what could happen to her?

Speaker 7 (26:33): You know, I just wonder,

Speaker 4 (26:35): It's what are those probably a cataclysmic of both. But, you know, here's the thing, you know, at least her postpartum is being expressed in a very protective way where she wants to be there for the baby because she's so afraid that she feels the need to maybe overprotect. So she's like kind of overcorrecting. I had a client that had postpartum and she would just leave the baby at home and didn't want anything to do with it. That'd be worse.

Unknown Speaker (27:02): Getting involved.

Speaker 4 (27:05): Yeah. And so at least at least Kristen is experiencing it in a way that's protecting her child. It's just kind of over it. Right. It really is amplifying her preexisting quality, which is to be a protector.

Speaker 4 (27:21): She is definitely a protector, and it's natural to be like a protector on steroids. You know? So I would love to know just more about Kristen apart from the show. Like, who are your mom and dad? Like, how did you get here?

Speaker 4 (27:33): All know about them.

Unknown Speaker (27:34): Right? Like like, what is your relationship with your sister? Ultimately, I would love to know

Speaker 4 (27:40): for characters that are in the throes of having a pile on and the throes of being misunderstood, not only by your cast, but now by the public. How do you cope every day? Like, what is your day to day and how do you true to yourself? Do you stay true to yourself? I really need to know what that journey looks like.

Speaker 4 (27:58): And this is going to be a very unpopular opinion episode and we understand that. But the way we just see it, it's like there is no show. There is no show without this conflict. There's no show without the Janet conflict. And just don't find the show interesting and compelling because none of them have anything really interesting or compelling going on in their day to day to really leverage.

Unknown Speaker (28:24): So this is what they've got and this is this is what I think about it. We've got next gen coming so I can't.

Speaker 7 (28:32): I know. Yeah. I would love to know why everybody's giving Danny such an easy go of this. Like, oh, it's okay, buddy. You didn't mean it.

Speaker 7 (28:43): And no one's really angry at Danny, but everybody is so angry at Janet with the exception of Michelle and Brittany, when she didn't even do anything. All she's doing is pointing out the behavior and they're not even mad at the person doing the behavior.

Speaker 4 (29:00): Well, think Dani is scary and it was really interesting. And I meant to bring this up earlier and I thought we were going to end up, but I meant to bring this up earlier. I thought it was very interesting that when they did the flashback and Janet is sitting at the dinner table and talking to Nia and referencing, like, you know, I struggled with a husband that had drug and alcohol addiction, Nia immediately clocks or tries to clock. She said he doesn't have a drug and alcohol problem. And that's not what Janet said.

Speaker 4 (29:29): Anybody with half a brain would have known that she was using that just as contextually, this is why she's able to speak on it.

Unknown Speaker (29:36): Or even this is why she's so sensitive. Private concern. Exactly.

Speaker 4 (29:43): Exactly. Exactly. You know? And La la that has more agency on the subject of sobriety in the group, definitely has some authority to speak on it. And I will say, I will say that Kristen was right.

Speaker 4 (29:58): Britney drinks, Zach drinks, and Jasmine drinks, and they all get they all get a little, like, turnt. You know? We do. Let's not forget let's not forget that Britney and Michelle were really drunk that night at Yamashiro when they lashed out at Lacey, and the audio of Britney lashing out was not favorable. It was really bad.

Unknown Speaker (30:17): Oh my god. I know. You're right.

Speaker 4 (30:20): They do have these behaviors. But I think the difference is if you talk to them about it, they would own up to it, whereas Danny's not owning up

Speaker 7 (30:28): to his stuff. And it's mostly the way he gets so angry and mean towards his wife while they're just acting like silly and loose every time they go out. The thing with Danny is, it's becoming in every single episode, how much is he drinking scenario. But you're right. I wish we had any other topic of this show to discuss.

Speaker 7 (30:56): I mean, Zach got the receipts at least. At least he made him own up to it. Yeah. And next week, I can't wait. It looks like there's gonna be this battle, and I don't know over what, but I hope they're not tricking us.

Unknown Speaker (31:13): Know how sometimes the editors will make it look like it's, like, exciting.

Speaker 4 (31:18): I'm not entertained, but I am committed to finishing the job of watching it.

Unknown Speaker (31:21): Yes. Yes. I'm We're not what? Halfway? Less than

Unknown Speaker (31:26): half more than halfway.

Unknown Speaker (31:28): We're almost there, you guys. Well, the

Speaker 4 (31:32): time has been had, I guess, and we'll see you on the other side as we step into next gen, which

Unknown Speaker (31:38): I am very excited to watch. I've I've heard that it was actually

Speaker 4 (31:42): very good, so I'm excited to see something fresh and refreshing and a little less dark.

Unknown Speaker (31:47): Yes. I'm so excited. Yep. We'll definitely be discussing that.

Speaker 4 (31:54): Definitely. I'll see you on the other side, hon.

Unknown Speaker (31:56): Bye.

Unknown Speaker (31:57): Bye.

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Unknown Speaker (32:39): I was a little overwhelmed by the newness of it all. Boxes were everywhere. I needed a break from unpacking.

Speaker 1 (32:45): But

Speaker 5 (32:45): just as I was able to take a

Speaker 6 (32:47): breath and open my Hershey's Cookies and Cream bar,

Speaker 2 (32:49): my new roommate Rachel walked in. I offered her a piece, but

Unknown Speaker (32:53): she said no. Then after a beat, she said,

Unknown Speaker (32:55): actually, those are my favorite ones. We left. The ice was broken, and we've been friends ever since. Hershey's, it's your happy place.

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